Charisma and “owning the stage”
Posted: 13 August 2015 07:07 AM   [ Ignore ]
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That talk about charisma earlier reminded me about my periodic fascination with Freddie Mercury.
A while back my gal and I had a game of trying to think of some other rock star that had Freddy’s level of charisma
and stage presence.  I mean the guy owned any stage he was strutting on.

The closest we got was Mick Jagger - but you know to me he seems a cheap second.
A poser desperately giving it all he got, but never quite transcending.

It took a while to figure where the difference was, only to reveal itself to be obvious.
Mick’s got no voice, whereas Freddy had one of the best most operatic voices rock has ever heard, if not the best.
He had the chops and substance, his show and presence flowed from that supreme ability and the confidence that came with it.

Showmanship and brass balls can take you far, look at Mick’s accomplishments,
but the transcendent don’t happen unless you got the chops.


Any thoughts? 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vTjdOTMGE

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Posted: 13 August 2015 08:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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citizenschallenge.pm - 13 August 2015 07:07 AM

That talk about charisma earlier reminded me about my periodic fascination with Freddie Mercury.
A while back my gal and I had a game of trying to think of some other rock star that had Freddy’s level of charisma
and stage presence.  I mean the guy owned any stage he was strutting on.

The closest we got was Mick Jagger - but you know to me he seems a cheap second.
A poser desperately giving it all he got, but never quite transcending.

It took a while to figure where the difference was, only to reveal itself to be obvious.
Mick’s got no voice, whereas Freddy had one of the best most operatic voices rock has ever heard, if not the best.
He had the chops and substance, his show and presence flowed from that supreme ability and the confidence that came with it.

Showmanship and brass balls can take you far, look at Mick’s accomplishments,
but the transcendent don’t happen unless you got the chops.


Any thoughts? 

his vocal range
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vTjdOTMGE

Interesting topic, and I agree with you placing Freddy over Mick on the “charisma chart”. Another person who definitely has that charisma is Jimmy Fallon.

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Posted: 13 August 2015 03:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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citizenschallenge.pm - 13 August 2015 07:07 AM

That talk about charisma earlier reminded me about my periodic fascination with Freddie Mercury.
A while back my gal and I had a game of trying to think of some other rock star that had Freddy’s level of charisma
and stage presence.  I mean the guy owned any stage he was strutting on.

The closest we got was Mick Jagger - but you know to me he seems a cheap second.
A poser desperately giving it all he got, but never quite transcending.

It took a while to figure where the difference was, only to reveal itself to be obvious.
Mick’s got no voice, whereas Freddy had one of the best most operatic voices rock has ever heard, if not the best.
He had the chops and substance, his show and presence flowed from that supreme ability and the confidence that came with it.

Showmanship and brass balls can take you far, look at Mick’s accomplishments,
but the transcendent don’t happen unless you got the chops.


Any thoughts? 


his vocal range
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vTjdOTMGE

Interesting topic, and I agree with you placing Freddy over Mick on the “charisma chart”. Another person who definitely has that charisma is Jimmy Fallon.

If you’re bringing in comedians, I think you have to include Robin Williams and Steve Martin, in his prime.

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Posted: 13 August 2015 06:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I agree that Freddy Mercury was a much better singer than Jagger; as far as charisma goes, Jagger is either equal or more, IMO.

Other charismatic performers—Jim Morrison and Tony Bennett come to mind.

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TimB - 13 August 2015 03:48 PM
CuthbertJ - 13 August 2015 08:24 AM
citizenschallenge.pm - 13 August 2015 07:07 AM

That talk about charisma earlier reminded me about my periodic fascination with Freddie Mercury.
A while back my gal and I had a game of trying to think of some other rock star that had Freddy’s level of charisma
and stage presence.  I mean the guy owned any stage he was strutting on.

The closest we got was Mick Jagger - but you know to me he seems a cheap second.
A poser desperately giving it all he got, but never quite transcending.

It took a while to figure where the difference was, only to reveal itself to be obvious.
Mick’s got no voice, whereas Freddy had one of the best most operatic voices rock has ever heard, if not the best.
He had the chops and substance, his show and presence flowed from that supreme ability and the confidence that came with it.

Showmanship and brass balls can take you far, look at Mick’s accomplishments,
but the transcendent don’t happen unless you got the chops.


Any thoughts? 


his vocal range
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vTjdOTMGE

Interesting topic, and I agree with you placing Freddy over Mick on the “charisma chart”. Another person who definitely has that charisma is Jimmy Fallon.

If you’re bringing in comedians, I think you have to include Robin Williams and Steve Martin, in his prime.

And Donald Trump.

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citizenschallenge.pm - 13 August 2015 07:07 AM

That talk about charisma earlier reminded me about my periodic fascination with Freddie Mercury.
A while back my gal and I had a game of trying to think of some other rock star that had Freddy’s level of charisma
and stage presence.  I mean the guy owned any stage he was strutting on.

The closest we got was Mick Jagger - but you know to me he seems a cheap second.
A poser desperately giving it all he got, but never quite transcending.

It took a while to figure where the difference was, only to reveal itself to be obvious.
Mick’s got no voice, whereas Freddy had one of the best most operatic voices rock has ever heard, if not the best.
He had the chops and substance, his show and presence flowed from that supreme ability and the confidence that came with it.

Showmanship and brass balls can take you far, look at Mick’s accomplishments,
but the transcendent don’t happen unless you got the chops.


Any thoughts? 


his vocal range
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vTjdOTMGE

Interesting topic, and I agree with you placing Freddy over Mick on the “charisma chart”. Another person who definitely has that charisma is Jimmy Fallon.

If you’re bringing in comedians, I think you have to include Robin Williams and Steve Martin, in his prime.

And Donald Trump.

Donald is funny but not necessarily because he intends to be.  So I don’t think he counts as a comedian. 

But back to CC’s original point, Mick has charisma.  Freddie had charisma.  Freddie’s charisma was backed up byhis most extraordinary singing voice.

Whereas, Donald has charisma.  JFK had charisma.  JFK’s charisma was backed up by extraordinary characteristics that Donald just does not have.

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