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Accepting being gay
Posted: 23 December 2016 07:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Okay, I’m getting old. This gay thing came out of the blue, as far as I remember. I don’t remember him ever mentioning it before, and he starts out here as if it is a question about someone else, then just slides into talking as if it is him. I suspect we will soon hear he has cancer. Attention seeking is like drugs, you can never get enough.

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Posted: 23 December 2016 09:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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citizenschallenge.pm - 23 December 2016 12:19 AM
LoisL - 22 December 2016 10:54 PM

You have to accept yourself before you can be accepted by others.

As in honest self examination and recognition, becoming comfortable within your skin.
Appreciating that somehow your best qualities are often balanced by other qualities you don’t like, or even self destructive. 
Through serious recognition we gain a degree of control, or at least moderation and channeling.

Becoming aware of the ups and downs, ebbs and flows - not taking the moment too seriously,
remaining aware and observant and always learning a little more about one’s world and one self. 
Knowing this too shall pass, soon enough when a bummer, too soon when having a great time.  So it goes.

As for the gay thing, they really do have a struggle, but it’s more to do with the world’s reactions to them.
but, through those struggles I’ve found many of the most self aware and thoughtful talented friends I’ve made over the years are gay.
Going through that fire and surviving with your head on straight, requires some genuine inner strength,
that nice straight kids like me never need to muster and it radiate from the person.

Beyond that, it is what it is.  kiss  (excuse me while I kiss the sky   cool smile  )

The way I see it, it seems like being LGBT is just needless suffering that people have to go through. I don’t see it as strength when the suffering you endure is unnecessary.

Then there’s that whole bit about whether the self is real or not.

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Posted: 23 December 2016 01:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Titanomachina - 23 December 2016 12:15 AM
LoisL - 22 December 2016 10:54 PM
Titanomachina - 22 December 2016 12:12 PM

I suppose you have a point. There is a lot of what “might” happen. But that’s no reason to stop doing.

Stop doing what? i didn’t say anything about stopping anything.

I have a family member who is gay. He is married to his partner and they are raising an adopted daughter. They have accepted their sexuality. They are happy and also fulfilled in their work. You have to accept yourself before you can be accepted by others.

I hear that a lot but I’m confused by the term, acceptance…

It’s the opposite of rejection. If you can’t tell the difference you’re in big trouble.

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Posted: 23 December 2016 01:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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LoisL - 23 December 2016 01:01 PM
Titanomachina - 23 December 2016 12:15 AM
LoisL - 22 December 2016 10:54 PM
Titanomachina - 22 December 2016 12:12 PM

I suppose you have a point. There is a lot of what “might” happen. But that’s no reason to stop doing.

Stop doing what? i didn’t say anything about stopping anything.

I have a family member who is gay. He is married to his partner and they are raising an adopted daughter. They have accepted their sexuality. They are happy and also fulfilled in their work. You have to accept yourself before you can be accepted by others.

I hear that a lot but I’m confused by the term, acceptance…

It’s the opposite of rejection. If you can’t tell the difference you’re in big trouble.

I know what it means, it’s just the application of the term and the principle

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Posted: 23 December 2016 05:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Titanomachina - 23 December 2016 09:16 AM

The way I see it, it seems like being LGBT is just needless suffering that people have to go through.

I thought we already established that life itself was nothing but needless suffering that people have to endure.

Aaannd, the difference is?    hmmm

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Posted: 24 December 2016 04:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Titanomachina - 23 December 2016 09:16 AM
citizenschallenge.pm - 23 December 2016 12:19 AM
LoisL - 22 December 2016 10:54 PM

You have to accept yourself before you can be accepted by others.

As in honest self examination and recognition, becoming comfortable within your skin.
Appreciating that somehow your best qualities are often balanced by other qualities you don’t like, or even self destructive. 
Through serious recognition we gain a degree of control, or at least moderation and channeling.

Becoming aware of the ups and downs, ebbs and flows - not taking the moment too seriously,
remaining aware and observant and always learning a little more about one’s world and one self. 
Knowing this too shall pass, soon enough when a bummer, too soon when having a great time.  So it goes.

As for the gay thing, they really do have a struggle, but it’s more to do with the world’s reactions to them.
but, through those struggles I’ve found many of the most self aware and thoughtful talented friends I’ve made over the years are gay.
Going through that fire and surviving with your head on straight, requires some genuine inner strength,
that nice straight kids like me never need to muster and it radiate from the person.

Beyond that, it is what it is.  kiss  (excuse me while I kiss the sky   cool smile  )

The way I see it, it seems like being LGBT is just needless suffering that people have to go through. I don’t see it as strength when the suffering you endure is unnecessary.

Then there’s that whole bit about whether the self is real or not.

What’s the alternative to suffering? Are you just going to bang your head? Whether the self is real or not is something we can’t help you with. You’ll need a psychiatrist to help you with that.

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