Not a humanist forum at all…
Posted: 08 January 2017 10:00 AM   [ Ignore ]
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... with posters like titanomachina who thinks all humans should be murdered and isn’t shy about posting on it…

Vyazma who when I arrived here claimed to be an atheist, humanist socialist and now has an orgasm every time that Trump’s name is mentioned. He’s the forum pervert who jumps out from behind the bushes now in his shit stained overcoat and nothing else to flash us then disappear again.

Mike Yohe who’s a total climate change denier against all the evidence… no stable climate - no humans…

And no moderating AT ALL to limit their destructive influence on meaningful humanist focused discussion here.

Sadly CFI forums is just one more cynical bait-and-switch scam in a world full of them…

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Posted: 08 January 2017 07:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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This is a forum for free inquiry. One of the hallmarks of humanism and skepticism is free inquiry. So long as discussion remains relatively civil and therefore within the rules, it is within bounds. Mods and admin do not adjudicate rightness; our position is only to adjudicate rule-following. We try to do so with a light hand.

As a personal matter, a certain percentage of material here I find absurd, annoying, or even offensive. FWIW.

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Posted: 08 January 2017 09:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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dougsmith - 08 January 2017 07:53 PM

This is a forum for free inquiry. One of the hallmarks of humanism and skepticism is free inquiry. So long as discussion remains relatively civil and therefore within the rules, it is within bounds. Mods and admin do not adjudicate rightness; our position is only to adjudicate rule-following. We try to do so with a light hand.

As a personal matter, a certain percentage of material here I find absurd, annoying, or even offensive. FWIW.


Yo won’‘t find a discussion grouo worth being a membet of that isn’t absurd, annoying or offensive. It comes with the territory.

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Posted: 28 January 2017 03:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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dougsmith - 08 January 2017 07:53 PM

This is a forum for free inquiry. One of the hallmarks of humanism and skepticism is free inquiry. So long as discussion remains relatively civil and therefore within the rules, it is within bounds. Mods and admin do not adjudicate rightness; our position is only to adjudicate rule-following. We try to do so with a light hand.

As a personal matter, a certain percentage of material here I find absurd, annoying, or even offensive. FWIW.

It’s supposedly based on these values.

The mission of the Center for Inquiry is to foster a secular society based on science, reason, freedom of inquiry, and humanist values.

You’ve got people here openly advocating murdering everyone on the planet and others like climate change deniers who are doing their best to see that climate change mitigation never happens which will eventually mean no more humans…and likely little else on Earth.

https://skepticalscience.com/Lee-commentary-on-Burgess-et-al-PNAS-Permian-Dating.html

The Permian Mass Extinction 251.9 million years ago, otherwise known as “The Great Dying,” was the closest this planet has come to extinguishing all complex life on Earth. Around 90% of all species died out in this single event, a worse toll even than the Cretaceous extinction that wiped out the dinosaurs.

Burgess et al’s paper brings the Permian into line with many other global-warming extinction events, like the Triassic, the Toarcian, the Cretaceous Ocean Anoxic Events, The PETM, and the Columbia River Basalts, whose time frames have been progressively reduced as more sophisticated dating has been applied to them. They all produced the same symptoms as today’s climate change – rapid global warming, ocean acidification, and sea level rises, together with oxygen-less ocean dead zones and extinctions. They were all (possibly excluding the PETM - see below) triggered by rare volcanic outpourings called “Large Igneous Provinces,” (LIPs) that emitted massive volumes of CO2 and methane at rates comparable to today’s emissions. The PETM may also have been triggered by a LIP, although that is still debated.

Can we seriously expect Earth’s climate to behave differently today than it did at all those times in the past?

Your threshold on what qualifies as rational inquiry based on science and reason is what’s absurd here.

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Posted: 28 January 2017 08:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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LoisL - 08 January 2017 09:41 PM
dougsmith - 08 January 2017 07:53 PM

This is a forum for free inquiry. One of the hallmarks of humanism and skepticism is free inquiry. So long as discussion remains relatively civil and therefore within the rules, it is within bounds. Mods and admin do not adjudicate rightness; our position is only to adjudicate rule-following. We try to do so with a light hand.

As a personal matter, a certain percentage of material here I find absurd, annoying, or even offensive. FWIW.


Yo won’‘t find a discussion group worth being a membet of that isn’t absurd, annoying or offensive. It comes with the territory.

Lois

Learning to discuss and teach dispassionately is facilitated by ignorance, bias, propaganda, and coercive threats from the “home town gang”. This is this site’s greatest strength and opportunity. It is one of the best for it actually speaks with authority as if its opinions were facts and decisions to act…royal edicts.

And, the more this is done by the citizens of CFI board, the higher the rank…and rancor.

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Posted: 29 January 2017 02:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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This wasn’t someone making an inquiry based on reason and science;

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/forums/viewthread/18689/

The recurring proposal of culling a great amount of the human population for the survival of the planet and our species, or even wiping ourselves out to save it. In short I would like to know, why not?

I haven’t heard of this before, it’s obviously something very important to the poster given the length of how they defended this.

And it’s not based on their level of reason, they basically stated they are in a fact a psychopath and human life is worthless to them.

You fear psychopaths because they show just how frail our established systems really are (like morality).

The proper term is culling. Genocide is the illogical emotional term people use out of fear.

That whole thread was a psychopath demanding that we come up with some reason why we shouldn’t be exterminated by them, that’s advocating a new Holocaust, not inquiring about anything to do with reason or science in the context of humanist values. It’s the complete denial of them in point of fact.

Then we get to posters like Mike Yohe who endlessly “ask” questions involving the extremely well established science on global warming then inevitably “prove” it’s not happening. On an issue that scientific research is clearly indicating is heading towards another global scale extinction event if not mitigated. There’s no science, reason or humanity involved in that either, it’s just another way to kill off billions of humans and most other life on the planet.

Inquiry shorn of humanity in the interests of psychopaths is the opposite of what this forum claims to be…

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Posted: 29 January 2017 02:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Out of respect for the persons who see this thread as psychopathic, I shall post nothing more here in hopes to extinguish whatever satisfaction a psychopath may derive.
I tend to agree with the post of DougC above.

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Posted: 29 January 2017 04:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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The sad thing is that instead of discussing the implementation of modern technology and wisdom in the creation of truly humanist and sustainable societies, we end up having to defend our right to exist in the face of the emotionally insane. We shouldn’t have to point out to psychopaths why genocide is unacceptable in human terms or to the forum admin that this kind of discussion has no place in a forum committed to reason, science and humanist values.

For instance instead of discussing the possibilities revealed in something like Nash equilibrium equations on resolving human conflict and creating truly co-operative societies, or how there is a plethora of viable alternatives to fossil fuels that won’t kill us in the near future as the Earth departs from a livable climate, we end up diverted down endless rabbit holes created for the pleasure and gratification of those who clearly lack any ability at all to feel empathy and any real connection to their fellow humans let alone this amazing biosphere that we are part.

True inquiry isn’t based on how clever you are in manipulating discussion in a highly destructive fashion, it’s a balanced approach to examining the universe we are an intrinsic part of.

People like climate change deniers or psychopaths who have no concept of any value of life except for their own can only wreck meaningful discussion, not take part in it.

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