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Posted: 06 February 2017 09:14 PM   [ Ignore ]
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God is sin.
Without god, there would be no sin.
Without god, there could not be sin for sin is breaking clod’s law
Therefore god is sin

Without sin, there is no judgement for sin
Without god, there is no reward for keeping the law
Without judgement there is freedom to learn what works best in life both now and forever.

God is sin.
God is supreme law.
God is bondage.

God is a concept of control. God is sin.

Without god life can flourish more wonderfully than ever.
God brings nothing special to anyone that doesn’t also exist when god is gone.

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Posted: 25 March 2017 01:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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God is supernatural.

Is sin supernatural?

God can only exist in the mind of the individual if, the individual considers supernatural as a type of reality.

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Posted: 25 March 2017 01:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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God is a concept used to explain the universe.
Sin is a large part of the god concept.

Remove the concept of god and sin is also removed.
God is sin or, more accurately, the primary source of sin.

Sin is a special type of imaginary crime but crime is not sin.
Take away both god and sin and the concept of crime will still exist.

Crime is defined only by mankind. It has nothing to do with the god concept.
The god concept tries to take credit for crime too because the god concept claims the entire universe to be its kingdom. It claims all that is known and unknown.

Logically from such claims, the god of the god concept is also easily identified as a supremacist, immoral, corrupt and well, perhaps that covers it.
Each of the above accusations toward the god of the god concept requires its own logic statement.

The great thing about finding god guilty is that is sufficient punishment. It is an execution of an idea or concept even if society is not ready for it at the beginning of the trial, by the end, the services provided by the god concept can be vibrantly replaced.

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Posted: 25 March 2017 02:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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My question was a good one that went without, again, is sin supernatural?

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Posted: 25 March 2017 03:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Your question bears no relevance to the logic.

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Posted: 25 March 2017 04:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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JSmith - 25 March 2017 03:45 PM

Your question bears no relevance to the logic.

Excuse me, just a wonderment if “sin is supernatural”?

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Posted: 25 March 2017 04:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Is it that hard to figure out by the plain logic?
God is a concept. Are concepts anything other than natural ways of thinking? No
Sin is a concept of law that requires the god concept.
Both concepts are in the same set of concepts with god concept as high level in the hierarchy. The sin concept is below the god concept.

Take away the god concept and all the other related concepts, including sin…are taken away too.
The concept of sin is dependent on the concept of god. Both exist as concepts.

The problem with the god concept is that it is not built upon any percept. Percepts are evidence from the word perception.
Further problems with the god concept are that it is supremacist…thus we even have the term “super natural” (meaning laws and beings above and beyond nature). Supernatural is as much a part of the god concept just as sin, hell, heaven, salvation, and Armageddon are. They are ideas in the minds of men who want to take advantage, control individuals with less developed mind defenses, and live in a make believe world, a fantasy world, rather than engage the full reality of the world they know. After many generations of this concept the fantasy world is fully accepted as real even though…it is only a concept. Religious philosophers fill the gap between perceptual reality and the god concept with no perceptual reality. They fill the void with ignorance, god of the gaps and equivocation in word meanings.

None of the god concept has ever been verified or even hinted at save in the heads of men and magicians wanting to fool others for advantage.

Nothing with a name or that can be in any way spoken, written, or identified is supernatural.
Anytime you ask if something is supernatural the only answer is “what the hell are you talking about?”
Figure out what your talking about and the answer will be evident. This is the value critical thinking over dogma.

If anyone is not able or not willing to think critically, then the answer to them and you is “no, sin is not supernatural”.

My suggestion is to work harder and don’t give up. You’ll get it one day or…it will get you.

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Posted: 25 March 2017 05:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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You do understand that gods, holy ghosts et al, and other supernatural concepts are only in your mind. You have chosen this God spirit obsession to be an imaginary guest in your mind. That’s fine. But, you’re handling this in a way I don’t understand.

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Posted: 25 March 2017 06:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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The god concept is real in any mind that can understand it.
All minds that can conceptualize can intellectually engage the god concept.
Belief in the existence of a “god"and other parts of the god concept in existence outside the mind is the point of difference between persons.

Religious persons fully engage the fantasy. Every prayer, song, reading, meditation, and law passed is, for the religious, a service to the god of the god concept.
The fantasy becomes a psychic, hypnotic, visceral state shared with others who also believe.
The fantasy takes over their life to a great degree.

Non religious do not pretend the parts of the god concept are or soon will be perceptually real.
The religious blindly, without perceptual evidence, accept a fantasy world to be fully created as if “real” outside the mind too.

A great episode of Star Trek Next Generation portrays this perfectly. It is called “The game”.
A video game attaches around the back of the head with little arms sticking in front of the eyes about 6”.
The little arms shine images into the retina and the player is immediately addicted to the game and getting better at it.
Only a young man and woman, both engineers, decide to check out the game before playing because the game makes everyone obsessed and weird. Even the captain is playing yet able to still command.

The entire ship hunts for the two young ones to force them but they have pretend games on their heads since the pressure to conform has become so strong.

The game is designed by a small group who want to take over the ship.
When the group arrives it is not to provide rewards for excellent play, but to take over.

The game is analogous to religion. Watch it, it might help you.

I don’t really get what you care about anyway? Why your questions about supernatural and the rest. What difference does any of this make to you?

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Posted: 25 March 2017 07:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Just curious about the answer to the question is sin supernatural.  Never much thought about it before but, since God is supernatural then so must be sin.

Just let it go.

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Posted: 25 March 2017 08:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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god does not exist except as a concept in a human’s mind. To say god “is” anything implies god is something.
God is a word on paper. Supernatural is word on paper.
God is a sound humans hear when other humans pronounce the word on written paper. Supernatural is a sound humans hear when other humans pronounce the word on written paper.

God is a concept of a being imagined by some to exist. No evidence has ever been found or scientifically sought to find this imaginary being.

Supernatural is a concept of a level of existence imagined by some to exist. No evidence has ever been found or scientifically sought to find this imaginary existence.

Just as there is no god in existence, there is no supernatural and there can be no sin without them.
If you let god go, you will let sin go and be free to live and love without viscous and heinousness judgment and false love.

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Posted: 26 March 2017 05:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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AMH - 25 March 2017 02:50 PM

My question was a good one that went without, again, is sin supernatural?

Yes.

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Posted: 27 March 2017 06:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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AMH - 25 March 2017 02:50 PM

My question was a good one that went without, again, is sin supernatural?

Yes.

Yes of course sin is the epitome of supernatural, just wanting to see what JSmith would say.

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Posted: 27 March 2017 07:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I disagree in the sense that I don’t think that “sin” is entirely dependent upon the concept of God.  God is an idea.  Sin is an idea.  But for me, a “sin” is a crime against my conscience, against my moral code if you will.  Littering is a “sin” to me, for example.  But I think this is just an argument about definitions.  If you define “sin” as a “crime against God”, then obviously you’re right.  But it’s a tautology.

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Posted: 27 March 2017 07:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I understand “sin” is widely used colloquially outside the biblical context.

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Posted: 29 March 2017 09:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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JSmith - 06 February 2017 09:14 PM

God is sin.
Without god, there would be no sin.
Without god, there could not be sin for sin is breaking clod’s law
Therefore god is sin

Without sin, there is no judgement for sin
Without god, there is no reward for keeping the law
Without judgement there is freedom to learn what works best in life both now and forever.

God is sin.
God is supreme law.
God is bondage.

God is a concept of control. God is sin.

Without god life can flourish more wonderfully than ever.
God brings nothing special to anyone that doesn’t also exist when god is gone.

Nothing to do with god. God believers invented sin.

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