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Posted: 18 February 2017 01:01 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Will is the force of creation and Love the force that relates (unites) the manifested.

Will & Love are complementary and can be considered the strong force of Consciousness.

The strong force expresses as harmony, beauty & joy –  the lack of it, as discontinuity, sadness and filth.

There is lots of talk about free will – usually motivated by the hope to get wishes fulfilled – but where there is Will there is neither wish nor hope.

Will cannot be willed, as there are no two Wills.

Will has no cause, nor can it be deduced from effects – Will is cause and effect.

Where Will is divided, weaknesses arise.

Seeking the origins of Will and the construction plans of creation is seeking to avoid self-responsibility.

Everyone is (or should be) his own creator and has thus infinite self-design possibilities – each of them having, when motivated by the Will & Love to realize oneself, the potential to bring about a self-image wherein all creations complement each other.

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Posted: 18 February 2017 01:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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waechter418 - 18 February 2017 01:01 PM

Will is the force of creation and Love the force that relates (unites) the manifested.

Will & Love are complementary and can be considered the strong force of Consciousness.

The strong force expresses as harmony, beauty & joy –  the lack of it, as discontinuity, sadness and filth.

There is lots of talk about free will – usually motivated by the hope to get wishes fulfilled – but where there is Will there is neither wish nor hope.

Will cannot be willed, as there are no two Wills.

Will has no cause, nor can it be deduced from effects – Will is cause and effect.

Where Will is divided, weaknesses arise.

Seeking the origins of Will and the construction plans of creation is seeking to avoid self-responsibility.

Everyone is (or should be) his own creator and has thus infinite self-design possibilities – each of them having, when motivated by the Will & Love to realize oneself, the potential to bring about a self-image wherein all creations complement each other.

Define “will” and “love”.

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Posted: 19 February 2017 07:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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See above

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Posted: 19 February 2017 11:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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waechter418 - 19 February 2017 07:54 AM

See above

It makes no sense to me.

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Posted: 20 February 2017 10:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Sorry.

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Posted: 20 February 2017 11:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Well that cleared it up. </snark>

Saying “Will is the force of creation” is meaningless without defining “will.” I’m not going to play 20 questions with you. Unless you can explain that statement with empirical evidence there is no sense discussing this.

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Posted: 21 February 2017 07:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Well it is true, waechter418 gave the definitions Lois asked for, so the question was superfluous.

He defines will as ‘the force of creation’; and love as ‘the force that relates (unites) the manifested’.

But of course these definitions are very vague and heavy loaded with new age speak. So, waechter418, you get not far from here.

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Posted: 21 February 2017 08:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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According to those definitions will existed before the universe and love existed before energy coalesced into matter. Whose will? Whose love? What he posted is meaningless drivel, as is almost all new age speak.

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Posted: 21 February 2017 08:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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This does not necessarily mean that your will exists before you.

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Posted: 21 February 2017 09:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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waechter418 - 21 February 2017 08:28 AM

This does not necessarily mean that your will exists before you.

I didn’t say it did. Please explain how will created the universe.

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Posted: 21 February 2017 11:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Ya know, you click on a topic in the Philosophy section, hoping maybe something new and different has come along, and, well….

Saying something is a force is not a definition in any real sense of “definition”. A force like a physical force? If so, at what level? Quantum or observable? Newtonian? If so, why the new word? If you are talking about forces of nature that shaped the universe, why not use the language of people who have been studying that all their lives? Unless you are trying to write some poetry here, then you have some flowery allegories, but that’s about it. And you are explaining your poetry, not writing it. Why are doing that?

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Posted: 24 February 2017 08:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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waechter418 - 21 February 2017 08:28 AM

This does not necessarily mean that your will exists before you.

I didn’t say it did. Please explain how will created the universe.

....and i didn`t say “will created the universe” (i am an atheist:-)

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Posted: 24 February 2017 09:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Then what the hell did you mean by “will is the force of creation”?

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Posted: 26 February 2017 05:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Don´t you create anything ?

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Posted: 27 February 2017 08:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Asking a question is not an answer.

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Posted: 01 March 2017 09:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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yours isn`t an answer either…

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