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Posted: 01 May 2017 11:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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I just realized I didn’t really absorb your opening post the first time. I know a few open minded Christians, so I’m looking forward to what you have to offer and might be able to get you some feedback.

This is my latest project.

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Posted: 02 May 2017 06:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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GabrielGnosi - 26 March 2017 01:36 PM

Hello, guys.

I am new to the forums and would like to introduce myself.

I’m a religious researcher.

I recently finished writing a book regarding religious matters, with a huge potential to cause a stir, and since I know that due to my proposal I will be attacked by fundamentalist zealots and blind believers, I’m working on building contacts with open minded people who could support me in this enterprise.

I’ll be honest with you, I’m not exactly an atheist. The reason why I’m here is because I do prefer an honest atheist than a hypocrite believer. It is impossible to argue with blind believers when it is about questioning religious dogmas.

I’ll later start a discussion about my book. I’m trying to get it published.
Keep in touch if you feel interested. I have plans to give away the book for free in places like this forum.
Thank you!

PS: I’ve read the RULES and I know about the advertising restrictions. I DID NOT COME HERE TO ADVERTISE NOR TO SELL ANYTHING!


I’ll be honest with you, I’m not exactly an atheist.


Them you believe in god? I’m not sure how the “exactly” fits in there. Either you believe there’s a god or you don’t. If you’re trying to day you don’t KNOW whether there is a god or not—nobody does. But that doesn’t make you an atheist.


But welcome to the forum.

Lois

Hi Louis. Thank you for your welcome.

A fair question from you.

For Buddhists, the belief in god is senseless, that does not mean they deny its existence; they just say it is senseless.

In order to NOT BELIEVE in God, atheists must conceptualize one. You think about something and say “I don`t believe this.” But first, you think about it, only then you decide either it exist or not.

The even concept of BELIEF is relative, as well as the NON-BELIEF one.if in god

So, looking from one point of view, I may be called an Atheist, while from others, maybe I could be called a believer.

Anyway, this is just my introduction letter, let’s discuss this matter in a better place later.

Thanks!

The point is not what other people think of your stance on whether a god exists, it’s what YOUR stance is from your own point of view. Only you can say whether you believe a god exists or not. If you’re on the fence, say so, but that also means you have no firm belief in god. Agnostocs are atheists. Being open to the possibility of a god does not make you a theist.

As for comceptualizing a god, we don’t have to do that, since other people have done it for us since the dawn of man. Atheists reject all concepualizations of god(s). We don’t believe any of them exist. I have no idea which of the thousands of gods you focus on when you say you are not “exactly” an atheist, but you most likely reject all conceptualizations of god except for the one you were raised to believe in. In other words, you are an atheist already when it comes to conceptualizations of gods not your own.

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Posted: 04 May 2017 07:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Welcome,

Can you describe your concept of God?  If not, it seems kind of moot to discuss the existence of something which is unknown and unknowable.

If each person has the freedom to interpret (experience) his/her own God, then there would be a couple of billion gods, which makes it doubtful that consensus on a common denominator can ever be arrived at.  So far, this scenario has played for several milennia now, and continuing…....

OTOH, it has been proposed that a purely mathematical universe which functions quasi-intelligent (pseudo-sentient) and in accordance with mathematical imperatives (motive), would be equal in potential creativeness as any other invisible external causality.

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Posted: 09 May 2017 08:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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GabrielGnosi - 26 March 2017 05:33 PM
LoisL - 26 March 2017 05:25 PM
GabrielGnosi - 26 March 2017 01:36 PM

Hello, guys.

I am new to the forums and would like to introduce myself.

I’m a religious researcher.

I recently finished writing a book regarding religious matters, with a huge potential to cause a stir, and since I know that due to my proposal I will be attacked by fundamentalist zealots and blind believers, I’m working on building contacts with open minded people who could support me in this enterprise.

I’ll be honest with you, I’m not exactly an atheist. The reason why I’m here is because I do prefer an honest atheist than a hypocrite believer. It is impossible to argue with blind believers when it is about questioning religious dogmas.

I’ll later start a discussion about my book. I’m trying to get it published.
Keep in touch if you feel interested. I have plans to give away the book for free in places like this forum.
Thank you!

PS: I’ve read the RULES and I know about the advertising restrictions. I DID NOT COME HERE TO ADVERTISE NOR TO SELL ANYTHING!


I’ll be honest with you, I’m not exactly an atheist.


Them you believe in god? I’m not sure how the “exactly” fits in there. Either you believe there’s a god or you don’t. If you’re trying to day you don’t KNOW whether there is a god or not—nobody does. But that doesn’t make you an atheist.


But welcome to the forum.

Lois

Hi Louis. Thank you for your welcome.

A fair question from you.

For Buddhists, the belief in god is senseless, that does not mean they deny its existence; they just say it is senseless.

In order to NOT BELIEVE in God, atheists must conceptualize one. You think about something and say “I don`t believe this.” But first, you think about it, only then you decide either it exist or not.

The even concept of BELIEF is relative, as well as the NON-BELIEF one.

So, looking from one point of view, I may be called an Atheist, while from others, maybe I could be called a believer.

Anyway, this is just my introduction letter, let’s discuss this matter in a better place later.

Thanks!

Buddha came to the conclusion that a balanced life is well lived. Which is a concept of personal behavior.

But an atheist does not need to form a concept of a sentient god, before he/she can reject the concept.

The question itself is duplicitous in nature. The burden of presenting a concept of an immaterial sentient creative being falls on you.  I reject the concept of God for that very reason, there is no known universal law that would allow for such an existence.

By your words, the question in that context is meaningless.  I don’t need to prove the non-existence of something which by definition cannot exist in accordance with known properties of the universe.

Watch this little clip, it may contain some valuable information in your quest for understanding.

https://www.ted.com/talks/robert_sapolsky_the_biology_of_our_best_and_worst_selves

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