But America also has mechanisms to control those elements or I wouldn’t be sitting in an independent nation to the north.
We haven’t conquered Canada yes? Still? Gosh, I’m sorry, our bad. I’ll have someone get on that right away. But wait a second, I remember why now. Yea, that’s it, we don’t want to contaminate America with you darn Canadians, and the reason should be obvious. You guys are sane, you just wouldn’t fit in.
The Normandy landings were carried out by nations with relatively free press and the public had wide access to information. The USSR on the other hand was a closed society under a brutal dictatorship that severely punished free thought and did not allow a free press.
I think the problem was that Russia became the enemy shortly after WWII, and we didn’t want to give them credit for anything. Thus, our understanding of history has been distorted, and folks like Beltane would be correct in pointing out such things.
The British did colonize many places, I live in a former British colony. And there were negative aspects of this, but there is still pride on the part of many nations that they were part of this empire or the Commonwealth wouldn’t exist.
Holy crap, now I remember, you’re the people who INVADED US in 1812!!!
Americans fought brutal wars against different groups, how does this make them different than other nations.
It doesn’t, so maybe we should spend less time pretending we are so very different, as Beltane might remark.
The “genocide” of native Americans for instance took place in the context of brutal attacks by natives on the civilian population.
Whoa, me and Beltane are gonna have to kick your butt now. That is, scalp you. BTW, there’s a great documentary series on either Amazon or Netflix that covers the entire history of American/Indian relations. Very educational. We already know the general story, but digging in to all the details is quite sobering.
Claiming that the US went into WW II just take over the world is not factual.
Agreed. We inherited the world after everybody else bombed themselves in to ruin.
It wasn’t even prepared for the war, in 1939 its army was outmatched by Portugal. It was forced into a war against its wishes and the interests of most of its population that wanted nothing to do with the war. It was attacked by one militaristic dictatorship and had war declared on it by another. How the hell does that equate with Roosevelt wanting to take over the world as beltane claims?
Beltane is just being dramatic, attempting to strike the bold rebel pose. Let’s cut him some slack perhaps, he’s only been an adult a couple of years, and none of us were born knowing everything. But still, yes, his points have to be refuted, agreed.
Kind of doubt that, his worldview is completely formed - as f….. up as it is - and he doesn’t give a crap what anyone else has to present. He’s told you exactly that in this thread.
Well, if true, his problem.
Some of the trends are there, but we have a choice in whether or not to repeat the past.
Um, maybe we have a choice. If we truly had such choices, war would not be a reliably persistent reality of the human condition.