There are a few people here who seem to be of the opinion that some fictional liberal elite is responsible for all the ills of western society. Apparently if not for “liberals” then we’d all be living in happy healthy homes, children wouldn’t getting fat, they’d stop being gay… and screwing around… and doing crime… and taking drugs, etc…
I’d really like to see some evidence of this liberal elite that is so destructive in the west.
We know how destructive the elites are many other places, think of the violent former KGB cliche that now effectively owns Russia, or the Chinese Communist party that has the blood of tens of millions on its hands and will imprison or kill anyone who even questions whether they have the right to govern there.
But how about the west and more specifically the US, has it been the liberal elite denying freedom and enslaving people here?
Arguably one of the most powerful families in the US and by extension the world has been the Bushs. Prescott Bush was a wealthy banker, Senator and king maker for people like Richard Nixon who he pulled out of obscurity in California. His son went on to head the CIA, was Reagan’s VP and a one term US president. His grandson was a two term US president and another grandson was a leading candidate for the republican party last year. Prescott, George Sr. and George Jr. all allegedly members of one of the most exclusive secret societies on the planet at Yale. You don’t get any more “establishment” than that anywhere.
There is no comparison within the Democrat party. The Kennedys probably come the closest but only put one son in the White House and another in Congress.
Going by the logic of the arch-conservatives who are here to school us on just how virtuous they and their movement are, then the effect of that arch-conservative family should have should have brought stability, freedom and respect for the law across the western world.
Like hell it did. Prescott Bush was the banker to Hitler’s banker, he helped make WW II happen and things like the Holocaust.
George Bush’s grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.
His business dealings, which continued until his company’s assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.
The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator’s action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
The debate over Prescott Bush’s behaviour has been bubbling under the surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about the “Bush/Nazi” connection, much of it inaccurate and unfair. But the new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis’ plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler’s rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.
George H. W. isn’t much better, he helped start wars in Central America and the Middle East that were mostly about profit that helped kill hundreds of thousands and laid the groundwork for a grinding conflict will likely continue for decades.
His son totally blew it when he invaded and occupied the wrong country and the US has lost thousands of lives and had tens of thousands permanently shattered not to mention the trillions of dollars added to the US debt with no gain, once again to make a few people a whole of money. Which also happened as under his oversight the banks went nuts and brought the global economy to its knees making homeless and jobless millions of Americans and people across the planet. People at places like Goldman Sachs got even richer while millions were punished brutally.
So please describe how “liberals” have even come close to the devastation created by this one conservative dynasty that was also responsible for the rise of Richard Nixon.
And thinking that a billionaire noted for his hedonistic lifestyle, massive ego, contempt for the law and any sense of ethics or morality like Trump is going to be an improvement on this sad legacy is highly dubious. One that is likely being held hostage by that same violent former KGB cliche that now owns Russia.
Senator John McCain passed documents to the FBI director, James Comey, last month alleging secret contacts between the Trump campaign and Moscow and that Russian intelligence had personally compromising material on the president-elect himself.
The material, which has been seen by the Guardian, is a series of reports on Trump’s relationship with Moscow. They were drawn up by a former western counter-intelligence official, now working as a private consultant. BuzzFeed on Tuesday published the documents, which it said were “unverified and potentially unverifiable”.
From what I can see you don’t get any more unethical, immoral and illegal than many of those who lead conservatives in the west.