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Posted: 20 July 2017 01:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Tanny - 20 July 2017 07:48 AM

Yet another thread destroyed by lazy little quip based posts. 

Guys, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but this forum is not a texting on your cell phone experience.  If you want to do texting quips, ok, no problem, but please DO IT ON YOUR PHONE.

Please observe the mission statement for this site, and please observe the complete absence of any mention of clever little quipping ego inflation procedures.  Please observe how the mission statement is intelligent, thoughtful, articulate and serious, using full sentences.  Even actual paragraphs!

This is what the site owners are hoping to accomplish with the free service they are providing you with.  Please respect the site owners by at least making a good faith attempt to comply with their goals for their site.

If you don’t agree with those goals, ok, the solution is for you to start your own forum dedicated to clever quipping and texting style conversations.

PLEASE STOP CLOGGING EVERY THREAD WITH THIS KIND OF LAZY JUNK. 

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To oppose and supplant the mythological narratives of the past, and the dogmas of the present, the world needs an institution devoted to promoting science, reason, freedom of inquiry, and humanist values. The Center for Inquiry is that institution.

At the Center for Inquiry, we believe that evidence-based reasoning, in which humans work together to address common concerns, is critical for modern world civilization. Moreover, unlike many other institutions, we maintain that scientific methods and reasoning should be utilized in examining the claims of both pseudoscience and religion. We reject mysticism and blind faith. No topic should be placed off limits to scrutiny—certainly not fringe science and religion, which have an enormous influence on beliefs and conduct.

We also maintain that values are properly the subject of study and discussion as much as empirical claims. The Center for Inquiry studies and promotes human values based on a naturalistic outlook. Ideological doctrine and religious dogma have no more right to dictate our moral norms than they do to influence scientific research.

The Center for Inquiry supports research, but our mission activities go far beyond sound scholarship. The Center for Inquiry and its programs, the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and the Council for Secular Humanism, also carry out their work through education, publishing, advocacy, and social services. The Center for Inquiry has established regional centers and communities, which provide a means of delivering educational programs and services on a local level and provide a venue for like-minded individuals to meet and share experiences. In addition, the Center for Inquiry has affiliates and sponsors programs in many different countries. A secular society ultimately should embrace all of humanity, not just selected countries.

In 2016, the Center for Inquiry (CFI) merged with the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason & Science (RDFRS). CFI and RDFRS have similar objectives and it made eminent good sense to combine their resources. CFI’s stated mission is to foster a secular society based on reason, science, and humanist values, and RDFRS shares that goal. CFI shares the stated mission of RDFRS: to remove the influence of religion in science education and public policy and eliminate the stigma that surrounds atheism and non-belief. By combining their talents, brainpower, and resources, they now become the largest freethought organization in the United States. As a result of this merger, they will have greater success in advancing their shared mission. The Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason & Science will continue as a division of the Center for Inquiry.

In aiming to foster a secular society, we do not seek to abridge the rights of believers. We vigorously object to government support of religion and the use of religious dogma to justify public policy; we do not oppose the free exercise of religion. The secular society we are building is a community of reason and compassion in which the dignity and fundamental rights of all individuals are respected.

Fostering a secular society requires attention to many specific goals, but three goals in particular represent the focus of our activities:

  an end to the influence that religion and pseudoscience have on public policy
  an end to the privileged position that religion and pseudoscience continue to enjoy in many societies
  an end to the stigma attached to being a nonbeliever, whether the nonbeliever describes her/himself as an atheist, agnostic, humanist, freethinker or skeptic.

Another big dodge by tanny

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Adamski - 20 July 2017 01:57 PM
Tanny - 20 July 2017 07:48 AM

Yet another thread destroyed by lazy little quip based posts. 

Guys, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but this forum is not a texting on your cell phone experience.  If you want to do texting quips, ok, no problem, but please DO IT ON YOUR PHONE.

Please observe the mission statement for this site, and please observe the complete absence of any mention of clever little quipping ego inflation procedures.  Please observe how the mission statement is intelligent, thoughtful, articulate and serious, using full sentences.  Even actual paragraphs!

This is what the site owners are hoping to accomplish with the free service they are providing you with.  Please respect the site owners by at least making a good faith attempt to comply with their goals for their site.

If you don’t agree with those goals, ok, the solution is for you to start your own forum dedicated to clever quipping and texting style conversations.

PLEASE STOP CLOGGING EVERY THREAD WITH THIS KIND OF LAZY JUNK. 

Thank you.

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Our Mission: The Center for Inquiry strives to foster a secular society based on reason, science, freedom of inquiry, and humanist values.

Our Vision: A world where people value evidence and critical thinking, where superstition and prejudice subside, and where science and compassion guide public policy.

Our Values: Integrity, Courage, Innovation, Empathy, Learning, Wonder

To oppose and supplant the mythological narratives of the past, and the dogmas of the present, the world needs an institution devoted to promoting science, reason, freedom of inquiry, and humanist values. The Center for Inquiry is that institution.

At the Center for Inquiry, we believe that evidence-based reasoning, in which humans work together to address common concerns, is critical for modern world civilization. Moreover, unlike many other institutions, we maintain that scientific methods and reasoning should be utilized in examining the claims of both pseudoscience and religion. We reject mysticism and blind faith. No topic should be placed off limits to scrutiny—certainly not fringe science and religion, which have an enormous influence on beliefs and conduct.

We also maintain that values are properly the subject of study and discussion as much as empirical claims. The Center for Inquiry studies and promotes human values based on a naturalistic outlook. Ideological doctrine and religious dogma have no more right to dictate our moral norms than they do to influence scientific research.

The Center for Inquiry supports research, but our mission activities go far beyond sound scholarship. The Center for Inquiry and its programs, the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and the Council for Secular Humanism, also carry out their work through education, publishing, advocacy, and social services. The Center for Inquiry has established regional centers and communities, which provide a means of delivering educational programs and services on a local level and provide a venue for like-minded individuals to meet and share experiences. In addition, the Center for Inquiry has affiliates and sponsors programs in many different countries. A secular society ultimately should embrace all of humanity, not just selected countries.

In 2016, the Center for Inquiry (CFI) merged with the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason & Science (RDFRS). CFI and RDFRS have similar objectives and it made eminent good sense to combine their resources. CFI’s stated mission is to foster a secular society based on reason, science, and humanist values, and RDFRS shares that goal. CFI shares the stated mission of RDFRS: to remove the influence of religion in science education and public policy and eliminate the stigma that surrounds atheism and non-belief. By combining their talents, brainpower, and resources, they now become the largest freethought organization in the United States. As a result of this merger, they will have greater success in advancing their shared mission. The Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason & Science will continue as a division of the Center for Inquiry.

In aiming to foster a secular society, we do not seek to abridge the rights of believers. We vigorously object to government support of religion and the use of religious dogma to justify public policy; we do not oppose the free exercise of religion. The secular society we are building is a community of reason and compassion in which the dignity and fundamental rights of all individuals are respected.

Fostering a secular society requires attention to many specific goals, but three goals in particular represent the focus of our activities:

  an end to the influence that religion and pseudoscience have on public policy
  an end to the privileged position that religion and pseudoscience continue to enjoy in many societies
  an end to the stigma attached to being a nonbeliever, whether the nonbeliever describes her/himself as an atheist, agnostic, humanist, freethinker or skeptic.

Another big dodge by tanny

Another big pointless wall of quoted text by tanny, which says nothing of any interest to anybody.  Hey everybody, I’m finally getting the hang of this.  Let’s clog the forum with total crap!  Yea!!!

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Posted: 21 July 2017 12:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Can you filter your question? The problem is that “soul” is mixed today with (spirit and body). I find it best to work with timelines. In pre-history, there are stories of the spirit. They had levels of heaven and the spirit. No deities. You would be reborn into level of society class, either moving up or down based upon how good you were in this life. The oldest known story of the spirit is of this pre-history union leader who was leading a strike for the irrigation canal workers. The union leader turned out to be a hero to the people. But during the strike he have validated property rights. The ancestors have very strict property rights laws. And the union leader had to be put to death. So, to honor the union leader they burnt his body so his spirit would be free and he would live forever.
 
Point being, I don’t know the answer to your question. I assume that the spirit was in the smoke of fire. The Sumerians, Babylonians and Akkadians all had fire gods and worship latter on in time. Personally, from the religions that evolved from that area, I think they looked as the world as one big entity. Because you could be reborn as something other than human.

Spirit? Another label mike without explanation.

What don’t you understand? I said spirit is mixed with soul and body. No different than god mixed with father, lord, master and almighty. Just to name a few. There are 939 names and titles for god in the bible encyclopedia. Is this explanation good enough for you?
 
What do think the difference is between soul and spirit?

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Posted: 21 July 2017 06:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Tanny - 20 July 2017 07:48 AM

Yet another thread destroyed by lazy little quip based posts. 

Tanny I tried offering a serious suggestion. 

Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 18 July 2017 10:05 PM

Oh we’re having fun now.

How about that little team of voices that keeps up our internal narrative?

I agree that some seem to jump on you quite hard, but you kinda set yourself up for it too.
Communication is a two way street.

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Posted: 21 July 2017 08:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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MikeYohe - 20 July 2017 11:22 AM

Can you filter your question? The problem is that “soul” is mixed today with (spirit and body). I find it best to work with timelines. In pre-history, there are stories of the spirit. They had levels of heaven and the spirit. No deities. You would be reborn into level of society class, either moving up or down based upon how good you were in this life. The oldest known story of the spirit is of this pre-history union leader who was leading a strike for the irrigation canal workers. The union leader turned out to be a hero to the people. But during the strike he have validated property rights. The ancestors have very strict property rights laws. And the union leader had to be put to death. So, to honor the union leader they burnt his body so his spirit would be free and he would live forever.
 
Point being, I don’t know the answer to your question. I assume that the spirit was in the smoke of fire. The Sumerians, Babylonians and Akkadians all had fire gods and worship latter on in time. Personally, from the religions that evolved from that area, I think they looked as the world as one big entity. Because you could be reborn as something other than human.

Spirit? Another label mike without explanation.

What don’t you understand? I said spirit is mixed with soul and body. No different than god mixed with father, lord, master and almighty. Just to name a few. There are 939 names and titles for god in the bible encyclopedia. Is this explanation good enough for you?
 
What do think the difference is between soul and spirit?

Soul and body? What the fuck is that loser???

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Posted: 21 July 2017 10:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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MikeYohe - 20 July 2017 11:22 AM

Can you filter your question? The problem is that “soul” is mixed today with (spirit and body). I find it best to work with timelines. In pre-history, there are stories of the spirit. They had levels of heaven and the spirit. No deities. You would be reborn into level of society class, either moving up or down based upon how good you were in this life. The oldest known story of the spirit is of this pre-history union leader who was leading a strike for the irrigation canal workers. The union leader turned out to be a hero to the people. But during the strike he have validated property rights. The ancestors have very strict property rights laws. And the union leader had to be put to death. So, to honor the union leader they burnt his body so his spirit would be free and he would live forever.
 
Point being, I don’t know the answer to your question. I assume that the spirit was in the smoke of fire. The Sumerians, Babylonians and Akkadians all had fire gods and worship latter on in time. Personally, from the religions that evolved from that area, I think they looked as the world as one big entity. Because you could be reborn as something other than human.

Spirit? Another label mike without explanation.

What don’t you understand? I said spirit is mixed with soul and body. No different than god mixed with father, lord, master and almighty. Just to name a few. There are 939 names and titles for god in the bible encyclopedia. Is this explanation good enough for you?
 
What do think the difference is between soul and spirit?

Soul and body? What the fuck is that loser???

Sorry, I thought wrong when I gave you the answer you ask for. But your knowledge of religion obviously does not give you enough tools to understand the answer to your own question. Your lost.

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Anyone able to explain to me what soul is and how do you know it exists? Anyone?

What do you think it is, Adamski? And can you show evidence that it exists?,

LoisL - is there a reason to think it does?

No, there is no reason to think it does that I can think of. How about you?

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Posted: 21 July 2017 03:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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MikeYohe - 20 July 2017 11:22 AM

Can you filter your question? The problem is that “soul” is mixed today with (spirit and body). I find it best to work with timelines. In pre-history, there are stories of the spirit. They had levels of heaven and the spirit. No deities. You would be reborn into level of society class, either moving up or down based upon how good you were in this life. The oldest known story of the spirit is of this pre-history union leader who was leading a strike for the irrigation canal workers. The union leader turned out to be a hero to the people. But during the strike he have validated property rights. The ancestors have very strict property rights laws. And the union leader had to be put to death. So, to honor the union leader they burnt his body so his spirit would be free and he would live forever.
 
Point being, I don’t know the answer to your question. I assume that the spirit was in the smoke of fire. The Sumerians, Babylonians and Akkadians all had fire gods and worship latter on in time. Personally, from the religions that evolved from that area, I think they looked as the world as one big entity. Because you could be reborn as something other than human.

Spirit? Another label mike without explanation.

What don’t you understand? I said spirit is mixed with soul and body. No different than god mixed with father, lord, master and almighty. Just to name a few. There are 939 names and titles for god in the bible encyclopedia. Is this explanation good enough for you?
 
What do think the difference is between soul and spirit?

Soul and body? What the fuck is that loser???

Sorry, I thought wrong when I gave you the answer you ask for. But your knowledge of religion obviously does not give you enough tools to understand the answer to your own question. Your lost.

You believe in an afterlife Mike??

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Adamski - 18 July 2017 03:30 AM

Anyone able to explain to me what soul is and how do you know it exists? Anyone?

What do you think it is, Adamski? And can you show evidence that it exists?,

LoisL - is there a reason to think it does?

No, there is no reason to think it does that I can think of. How about you?

Depends on how people define it. As a figure of speech referring to one morality not as some entity living beyond our natural life

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Tanny - 20 July 2017 07:48 AM

Yet another thread destroyed by lazy little quip based posts. 

Tanny I tried offering a serious suggestion. 

Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 18 July 2017 10:05 PM

Oh we’re having fun now.

How about that little team of voices that keeps up our internal narrative?

I agree that some seem to jump on you quite hard, but you kinda set yourself up for it too.
Communication is a two way street.

Tanny has extremely poor communucstion skills and cannit engage or be engaged. Here is this thread is a great example where tanny contibritutions add nothing to thr topic. Handwaving to the extreme

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MikeYohe - 20 July 2017 11:22 AM

Can you filter your question? The problem is that “soul” is mixed today with (spirit and body). I find it best to work with timelines. In pre-history, there are stories of the spirit. They had levels of heaven and the spirit. No deities. You would be reborn into level of society class, either moving up or down based upon how good you were in this life. The oldest known story of the spirit is of this pre-history union leader who was leading a strike for the irrigation canal workers. The union leader turned out to be a hero to the people. But during the strike he have validated property rights. The ancestors have very strict property rights laws. And the union leader had to be put to death. So, to honor the union leader they burnt his body so his spirit would be free and he would live forever.
 
Point being, I don’t know the answer to your question. I assume that the spirit was in the smoke of fire. The Sumerians, Babylonians and Akkadians all had fire gods and worship latter on in time. Personally, from the religions that evolved from that area, I think they looked as the world as one big entity. Because you could be reborn as something other than human.

Spirit? Another label mike without explanation.

What don’t you understand? I said spirit is mixed with soul and body. No different than god mixed with father, lord, master and almighty. Just to name a few. There are 939 names and titles for god in the bible encyclopedia. Is this explanation good enough for you?
 
What do think the difference is between soul and spirit?

Soul and body? What the fuck is that loser???

Sorry, I thought wrong when I gave you the answer you ask for. But your knowledge of religion obviously does not give you enough tools to understand the answer to your own question. Your lost.

You believe in an afterlife Mike??

You are trolling. goodbye

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MikeYohe - 20 July 2017 11:22 AM

Can you filter your question? The problem is that “soul” is mixed today with (spirit and body). I find it best to work with timelines. In pre-history, there are stories of the spirit. They had levels of heaven and the spirit. No deities. You would be reborn into level of society class, either moving up or down based upon how good you were in this life. The oldest known story of the spirit is of this pre-history union leader who was leading a strike for the irrigation canal workers. The union leader turned out to be a hero to the people. But during the strike he have validated property rights. The ancestors have very strict property rights laws. And the union leader had to be put to death. So, to honor the union leader they burnt his body so his spirit would be free and he would live forever.
 
Point being, I don’t know the answer to your question. I assume that the spirit was in the smoke of fire. The Sumerians, Babylonians and Akkadians all had fire gods and worship latter on in time. Personally, from the religions that evolved from that area, I think they looked as the world as one big entity. Because you could be reborn as something other than human.

Spirit? Another label mike without explanation.

What don’t you understand? I said spirit is mixed with soul and body. No different than god mixed with father, lord, master and almighty. Just to name a few. There are 939 names and titles for god in the bible encyclopedia. Is this explanation good enough for you?
 
What do think the difference is between soul and spirit?

Soul and body? What the fuck is that loser???

Sorry, I thought wrong when I gave you the answer you ask for. But your knowledge of religion obviously does not give you enough tools to understand the answer to your own question. Your lost.

You believe in an afterlife Mike??

You are trolling. goodbye

You got some real issues mike. Good luck

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