Ian Bremmer on what’s wrong with Trump-Putin relationship
Posted: 19 July 2017 09:14 AM   [ Ignore ]
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-07-18/bremmer-on-trump-putin-meeting-charlie-rose-video

Trump had a second undisclosed meeting with Putin that only included a Russian government interpreter.

There’s obviously something wrong with the Putin-Trump relationship.

If he looks like a traitor, talks like a traitor and walks like a traitor then Trump is probably a traitor.

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Posted: 19 July 2017 07:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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DougC - 19 July 2017 09:14 AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-07-18/bremmer-on-trump-putin-meeting-charlie-rose-video

Trump had a second undisclosed meeting with Putin that only included a Russian government interpreter.

There’s obviously something wrong with the Putin-Trump relationship.

If he looks like a traitor, talks like a traitor and walks like a traitor then Trump is probably a traitor.

There is something wrong with Trump that he is so incredibly stupid.

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Posted: 19 July 2017 09:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Even Fox News is starting to get it, Sean Hannity is one of the few there that still back Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MC2SBS-t1w

I don’t think Trump will last the summer, there’s too much evidence of his collusion with the Russian government to get elected.

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Posted: 19 July 2017 09:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Maybe they were talking about how to lift US sanctions on Russia, something that Trump tried to do the moment he got into the White House.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administrations-secret-efforts-ease-russia-sanctions-fell-short-231301145.html

In the early weeks of the Trump administration, former Obama administration officials and State Department staffers fought an intense, behind-the-scenes battle to head off efforts by incoming officials to normalize relations with Russia, according to multiple sources familiar with the events.

Unknown to the public at the time, top Trump administration officials, almost as soon as they took office, tasked State Department staffers with developing proposals for the lifting of economic sanctions, the return of diplomatic compounds and other steps to relieve tensions with Moscow.

These efforts to relax or remove punitive measures imposed by President Obama in retaliation for Russia’s intervention in Ukraine and meddling in the 2016 election alarmed some State Department officials, who immediately began lobbying congressional leaders to quickly pass legislation to block the move, the sources said.

It’s pretty clear that Trump is working for Putin, not the US.

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Posted: 19 July 2017 09:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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LoisL - 19 July 2017 07:51 PM
DougC - 19 July 2017 09:14 AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-07-18/bremmer-on-trump-putin-meeting-charlie-rose-video

Trump had a second undisclosed meeting with Putin that only included a Russian government interpreter.

There’s obviously something wrong with the Putin-Trump relationship.

If he looks like a traitor, talks like a traitor and walks like a traitor then Trump is probably a traitor.

There is something wrong with Trump that he is so incredibly stupid.

Yeah, what’s that say about all the people that voted for him?
How about all the people who knew better but couldn’t be bothered to take the profound threats HE PROMISED seriously enough to unite, engage and defeat the moron and his presidential bid.

The Children of the Enlightenment sure aren’t what their parents were.
Sorry Lois, rationalizing that it isn’t our fault will only guarantee it will keep happening.
For example
Not a f’n lesson was learned from Gore v Bush 2000

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Posted: 19 July 2017 09:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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DougC - 19 July 2017 09:19 PM

It’s pretty clear that Trump is working for Putin, not the US.

Come on, Trump doesn’t think that far.
Trump is working for Trump.
Putin being the shrewd predator that he is, spotted the clown long ago.
It’s Putin who is working Trump and Trump is just going along for the ride.

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and so it goes.

Trump working for the US LOL
When has Trump shown the slightest interest in America?
America is nothing but a stage prop for the pig.

[ Edited: 19 July 2017 09:48 PM by Citizenschallenge-v.3 ]
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Posted: 20 July 2017 04:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 19 July 2017 09:37 PM
LoisL - 19 July 2017 07:51 PM
DougC - 19 July 2017 09:14 AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-07-18/bremmer-on-trump-putin-meeting-charlie-rose-video

Trump had a second undisclosed meeting with Putin that only included a Russian government interpreter.

There’s obviously something wrong with the Putin-Trump relationship.

If he looks like a traitor, talks like a traitor and walks like a traitor then Trump is probably a traitor.

There is something wrong with Trump that he is so incredibly stupid.

Yeah, what’s that say about all the people that voted for him?
How about all the people who knew better but couldn’t be bothered to take the profound threats HE PROMISED seriously enough to unite, engage and defeat the moron and his presidential bid.

The Children of the Enlightenment sure aren’t what their parents were.
Sorry Lois, rationalizing that it isn’t our fault will only guarantee it will keep happening.
For example
Not a f’n lesson was learned from Gore v Bush 2000

I havent heaed any criticism from you on his ecinomic social policies

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Posted: 20 July 2017 07:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 19 July 2017 09:37 PM
LoisL - 19 July 2017 07:51 PM
DougC - 19 July 2017 09:14 AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-07-18/bremmer-on-trump-putin-meeting-charlie-rose-video

Trump had a second undisclosed meeting with Putin that only included a Russian government interpreter.

There’s obviously something wrong with the Putin-Trump relationship.

If he looks like a traitor, talks like a traitor and walks like a traitor then Trump is probably a traitor.

There is something wrong with Trump that he is so incredibly stupid.

Yeah, what’s that say about all the people that voted for him?
How about all the people who knew better but couldn’t be bothered to take the profound threats HE PROMISED seriously enough to unite, engage and defeat the moron and his presidential bid.

The Children of the Enlightenment sure aren’t what their parents were.
Sorry Lois, rationalizing that it isn’t our fault will only guarantee it will keep happening.
For example
Not a f’n lesson was learned from Gore v Bush 2000

More people voted for Clinton than Trump despite the fact that a hostile foreign power was hacking the entire US election with the help of WikiLeaks and other groups like the people who brought Brexit to Britain. Also with the aid of Putin.

A lot of it isn’t our fault, especially when Trump is also tied in with people and groups that are rapidly working to end real democracy in the US like the Kochs with Citizens United and the Tea Party. Mike Pence is their puppet.

So stop blaming all of America and Americans when just a few psychopaths are manipulating the hell out of everybody. That includes Trump, Putin, Assange and the Koch brothers.

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Posted: 20 July 2017 12:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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In case anyone is wondering why I connect Trump, Putin and Assange;

http://www.newsweek.com/wikileaks-just-suggested-julian-assange-should-run-us-russia-cyber-security-633954

Wikileaks has suggested its founder Julian Assange should head up the proposed U.S.-Russian unit on cyber security.

Responding to a tweet from President Donald Trump, which suggested he had discussed the formation of an “impenetrable cyber security unit” with Russian president Vladimir Putin on Friday, Wikileaks said Assange would be a good fit.

“Why not put ‪@JulianAssange in charge of it? He’s trusted by the public and has the CIA’s best stuff anyway,” the Wikileaks tweet said.

The Russians get dirt on Trump, they force him to run for president, they hack into the DNC servers and steal massive amounts of material which they then release through WikiLeaks. The head of WikiLeaks is still hiding out in the London Ecuadorian Embassy from Swedish sexual assault charges. Hillary wasn’t going to let him walk but his buddy Trump might.

Still think Trump is working for the US and not Russia?

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Posted: 21 July 2017 12:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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DougC - 19 July 2017 09:19 PM

Maybe they were talking about how to lift US sanctions on Russia, something that Trump tried to do the moment he got into the White House.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administrations-secret-efforts-ease-russia-sanctions-fell-short-231301145.html

In the early weeks of the Trump administration, former Obama administration officials and State Department staffers fought an intense, behind-the-scenes battle to head off efforts by incoming officials to normalize relations with Russia, according to multiple sources familiar with the events.

Unknown to the public at the time, top Trump administration officials, almost as soon as they took office, tasked State Department staffers with developing proposals for the lifting of economic sanctions, the return of diplomatic compounds and other steps to relieve tensions with Moscow.

These efforts to relax or remove punitive measures imposed by President Obama in retaliation for Russia’s intervention in Ukraine and meddling in the 2016 election alarmed some State Department officials, who immediately began lobbying congressional leaders to quickly pass legislation to block the move, the sources said.

It’s pretty clear that Trump is working for Putin, not the US.

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He"s working for what he can get out of Putin for his own advantage. Putin is doing the same with Trump, but he’s a lot smarter. Putin manipulates Trump every day.

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Posted: 21 July 2017 02:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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LoisL - 21 July 2017 12:10 PM

He"s working for what he can get out of Putin for his own advantage. Putin is doing the same with Trump, but he’s a lot smarter. Putin manipulates Trump every day.

According to the intelligence, Trump got caught doing some really nasty stuff in Russia… he’s basically being blackmailed into doing Putin’s bidding in that case.

Conceivably trump could end up on death row for this, I don’t think this will end up in his advantage at all. He’ll likely get out of this with his life, but he’s never going to be welcome in the US again, they are already attacking him on Fox News, that’s only going to get worse. He has no real allies except Putin and as devious and ruthless as Putin is he’s not American and there is going to be one hell of a backlash over what Trump has done already. And he’s not done yet.

I also don’t think Putin is very smart, he just has zero conscience. According to sources like Alexander Litvinenko Putin also has a sword hanging over his head ready to drop.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/22/alexander-litvinenko-slain-ex-kgb-spy-accused-puti/

Alexander Litvinenko publicly accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of being a pedophile just four months before he was poisoned in 2006, an inquiry into the ex-KGB spy’s death has found.

When the future Russian president was a student, he was filmed abusing children in an apartment where another top politician had a threesome with prostitutes, Litvinenko claimed in an article on the Chechenpress website in July 2006, four months before he was murdered, The Daily Mail reported.

Litvinenko made the accusation after the president was pictured a month earlier kissing the stomach of a 5-year-old boy during a walkabout in a public square near the Kremlin.

So who has the video of Putin diddling little boys, we aren’t seeing the real puppet masters here.

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Posted: 22 July 2017 12:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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It woukd be better to ask what is not wrong with the Trump-Putin relationship? It would be a much shorter answer.

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