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Posted: 01 August 2017 08:18 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Leave it to MSM to connect the upcoming eclipse to Trump

Is the eclipse throwing shade at Clinton supporters?

The path of ideal viewing spots for this month’s highly-anticipated total solar eclipse cuts overwhelmingly through places that voted for President Trump in November.

You gotta laugh at their desperation.

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Posted: 02 August 2017 06:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Beltane - 01 August 2017 08:18 PM

Leave it to MSM to connect the upcoming eclipse to Trump

Is the eclipse throwing shade at Clinton supporters?

The path of ideal viewing spots for this month’s highly-anticipated total solar eclipse cuts overwhelmingly through places that voted for President Trump in November.

You gotta laugh at their desperation.

Yeah and I gotta cry at the right wing desperation

Gold Farming and Bannon epiphany
http://www.npr.org/2017/07/18/537885042/inside-the-shakespearean-irony-of-trump-and-bannons-relationship

And they had enough power that they basically ruined Bannon’s business.
But the lesson he took away from that was that these rootless white males who spend all their time online actually had what he told me was “monster power” to go out and [effect] change, and that they operated at a kind of sub-rosa level that most people didn’t see.

So when he moved over to Breitbart News a couple years later, one of his goals he told me was trying to track these people and radicalize them in a political sense, which is basically what wound up happening. ...

How Breitbart became Donald Trump’s favourite news site
14 November 2016
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37109970

“We are going to be the Huffington Post of the right,” Bannon famously said at the time.
Their headlines, however, were anything but Huffington Post-like: “Would you rather your child had feminism or cancer?” was one jumped on by Democrats during the presidential race.
Others include “There’s no hiring bias against women in tech, they just suck at interviews”, “Giuliani: ‘Professional protesters,’ not Hillary supporters, marching across nation” and “EXCLUSIVE: London cop confirms Donald Trump UK radicalisation claims”.

“[Bannon] has sold out Andrew’s mission in order to back another bully, Donald Trump; he has shaped the company into Trump’s personal Pravda,” wrote former editor-at-large Ben Shapiro.
Those fears raised their heads again, after Bannon was announced as Mr Trump’s new strategist.

For an inside look at some articles and some fact checking
http://www.snopes.com/tag/breitbart/

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Posted: 03 August 2017 10:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Beltane - 01 August 2017 08:18 PM

Leave it to MSM to connect the upcoming eclipse to Trump

Is the eclipse throwing shade at Clinton supporters?

The path of ideal viewing spots for this month’s highly-anticipated total solar eclipse cuts overwhelmingly through places that voted for President Trump in November.

You gotta laugh at their desperation.

Be nice to have an actual link that works, but what’s the point anyway, your idiotic ideology taints everything you post.

So in the end the total MSM you’re trying to condemn based on nothing has far more relevance than you ever will.

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Posted: 03 August 2017 08:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 02 August 2017 06:02 PM
Beltane - 01 August 2017 08:18 PM

Leave it to MSM to connect the upcoming eclipse to Trump

Is the eclipse throwing shade at Clinton supporters?

The path of ideal viewing spots for this month’s highly-anticipated total solar eclipse cuts overwhelmingly through places that voted for President Trump in November.

You gotta laugh at their desperation.

Yeah and I gotta cry at the right wing desperation

Gold Farming and Bannon epiphany
http://www.npr.org/2017/07/18/537885042/inside-the-shakespearean-irony-of-trump-and-bannons-relationship

And they had enough power that they basically ruined Bannon’s business.
But the lesson he took away from that was that these rootless white males who spend all their time online actually had what he told me was “monster power” to go out and [effect] change, and that they operated at a kind of sub-rosa level that most people didn’t see.

So when he moved over to Breitbart News a couple years later, one of his goals he told me was trying to track these people and radicalize them in a political sense, which is basically what wound up happening. ...

How Breitbart became Donald Trump’s favourite news site
14 November 2016
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37109970

“We are going to be the Huffington Post of the right,” Bannon famously said at the time.
Their headlines, however, were anything but Huffington Post-like: “Would you rather your child had feminism or cancer?” was one jumped on by Democrats during the presidential race.
Others include “There’s no hiring bias against women in tech, they just suck at interviews”, “Giuliani: ‘Professional protesters,’ not Hillary supporters, marching across nation” and “EXCLUSIVE: London cop confirms Donald Trump UK radicalisation claims”.

“[Bannon] has sold out Andrew’s mission in order to back another bully, Donald Trump; he has shaped the company into Trump’s personal Pravda,” wrote former editor-at-large Ben Shapiro.
Those fears raised their heads again, after Bannon was announced as Mr Trump’s new strategist.

For an inside look at some articles and some fact checking
http://www.snopes.com/tag/breitbart/

You seem to have a gift for missing the point.


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Posted: 03 August 2017 10:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Really now. I was just looking at more stories of media desperation.

How about a link to your claimed story.

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Posted: 03 August 2017 10:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Jezz Beltane why did you even bring it up.
Talk about inanity.
For folks interested in the rest of his story.

Boston Globe mocked for tying solar eclipse to Trump voters
By Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Wednesday, August 2, 2017

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/2/boston-globe-mocked-for-tying-solar-eclipse-to-tru/

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Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 03 August 2017 10:39 PM

Jezz Beltane why did you even bring it up.
Talk about inanity.
For folks interested in the rest of his story.

Boston Globe mocked for tying solar eclipse to Trump voters
By Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Wednesday, August 2, 2017

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/2/boston-globe-mocked-for-tying-solar-eclipse-to-tru/

Well, OF COURSE the Washington Times would mock the Boston Globe for almost anything! They probably mock the Globe’s classified section.

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Posted: 05 August 2017 09:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 03 August 2017 10:33 PM

Really now. I was just looking at more stories of media desperation.

How about a link to your claimed story.

Two different things. MSM is dying. They’ve been reduced to putting out absurd clickbait articles for their elderly, depressed readers.

Bannon just found a growing audience and steered Brietbart in that direction.

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Posted: 05 August 2017 09:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Beltane - 05 August 2017 09:45 PM

Two different things. MSM is dying. They’ve been reduced to putting out absurd clickbait articles for their elderly, depressed readers.

Bannon just found a growing audience and steered Brietbart in that direction.

Right, just like TV killed radio… except radio is still here.

All media is in transition, it’s not dying.

Bannon didn’t find a growing audience, he created a platform for the worst that society has to offer. Turning Breitbart into a vehicle for white supremacists has nothing to do with providing genuine journalism for an audience that wants the facts.

It’s there to send out constant dog whistles for extremists, nothing more.

For instance Milo Yiannopolis didn’t organize an online stalking campaign of black actress Leslie Jones because he was acting as a professional journalist. He did so as part of racist campaign to target minority groups and intimidate moderates.

Breibart is just one more element that is being directed against democracy and social stability in the west.

Which entirely explains why you’re in support of it.

How is the weather in Moscow right now btw?

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Posted: 05 August 2017 10:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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DougC - 05 August 2017 09:59 PM
Beltane - 05 August 2017 09:45 PM

Two different things. MSM is dying. They’ve been reduced to putting out absurd clickbait articles for their elderly, depressed readers.

Bannon just found a growing audience and steered Brietbart in that direction.

Right, just like TV killed radio… except radio is still here.

All media is in transition, it’s not dying.

Bannon didn’t find a growing audience, he created a platform for the worst that society has to offer. Turning Breitbart into a vehicle for white supremacists has nothing to do with providing genuine journalism for an audience that wants the facts.

It’s there to send out constant dog whistles for extremists, nothing more.

For instance Milo Yiannopolis didn’t organize an online stalking campaign of black actress Leslie Jones because he was acting as a professional journalist. He did so as part of racist campaign to target minority groups and intimidate moderates.

Breibart is just one more element that is being directed against democracy and social stability in the west.

Which entirely explains why you’re in support of it.

How is the weather in Moscow right now btw?

Thanks Doug,  I was thinking about my response, but now that I’ve seen this go up, I’m good with leaving it at your’s.  Well said.

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Posted: 06 August 2017 12:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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If I compare the objectivity in reporting and commentary of MSNBC with Fox News, the difference is stunning.
IMO, with the exception of PBS (a non-profit), MSNBC has the most knowledgeable and objective reporters and commentators.

I do recognize that News Media in the past was usually a financial burden to the broadcast or publishing companies. It was more of a public service, which is actually required by law. Every news media was required to devote a certain amount of time on government issues of public concern.

With the advent of cable and the much larger market it was inevitable that in order to maintain a profitable market share, almost all News Media now employ a form of entertainment and pathos to increase audiences.

And as Trump is a natural TV personality through his TV show The Apprentice, he was able to manipulate his popularity by getting free time, for any of his outrageous claims and antics.  He was a money maker for every News Medium that wanted to increase their ratings.

Oh a little news flash, Trump has started his own News Broadcast on Facebook. God help us all! (and I’m an atheist)

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Posted: 06 August 2017 06:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Never mind.

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Posted: 06 August 2017 11:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Write4U - 06 August 2017 12:04 AM

If I compare the objectivity in reporting and commentary of MSNBC with Fox News, the difference is stunning.
IMO, with the exception of PBS (a non-profit), MSNBC has the most knowledgeable and objective reporters and commentators.

I do recognize that News Media in the past was usually a financial burden to the broadcast or publishing companies. It was more of a public service, which is actually required by law. Every news media was required to devote a certain amount of time on government issues of public concern.

With the advent of cable and the much larger market it was inevitable that in order to maintain a profitable market share, almost all News Media now employ a form of entertainment and pathos to increase audiences.

And as Trump is a natural TV personality through his TV show The Apprentice, he was able to manipulate his popularity by getting free time, for any of his outrageous claims and antics.  He was a money maker for every News Medium that wanted to increase their ratings.

Oh a little news flash, Trump has started his own News Broadcast on Facebook. God help us all! (and I’m an atheist)

Which is the real thing to be concerned about, the desire to sell news in the end is not compatible with presenting objective and unbiased reporting.

I also think that Fox News is a troubling example of this. Comedians like Stephen Colbert made fun of the shock effect that Fox “News” constantly tries to achieve with it viewers, making fun of Bill O’Reilly’s shock journalism with his “Threat Down.” Remember how scary BEARS! are.

Even Fox eventually got rid of totally ridiculous purveyors of this like Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin but much of the damage is already done. How many people refused to vote for Clinton due to years of being told just how dangerous Democrats were based on this highly skewed form of “journalism”.

If Obama was even close to being the evil overlord the Fox network painted him as for years then the US would no longer exist and it certainly wouldn’t have been able to remove him from power through an election. It also created a ready audience for outright liars like trump who claimed for years that Obama wasn’t even born in America based on nothing more than rumors created by people who were offended that a black man had become president.

Trump as president was made entirely possible by how detached from reality much of the reporting in the US has become, but the worst offenders are on the far right and Breitbart is the worst of that not even caring to conceal the deeply racist aspects of the journal. In fact it takes pride in being the meeting group for the alt-right - which is just another for ugly old racism.

Trump condemns most media he doesn’t control as being “fake” news, but the critical factor to understand is that almost everything that trump communicates is meant to deceive not inform.

Everything trump says is entirely based on the evidence about 5% of the time and entirely devoid of evidence about 15% with a heavy focus to being mostly false almost 70% of the time. That could only be possible by intent.

Trump “news” is in fact the Big Lie.

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DougC - 06 August 2017 11:14 AM
Write4U - 06 August 2017 12:04 AM

If I compare the objectivity in reporting and commentary of MSNBC with Fox News, the difference is stunning.
IMO, with the exception of PBS (a non-profit), MSNBC has the most knowledgeable and objective reporters and commentators.

I do recognize that News Media in the past was usually a financial burden to the broadcast or publishing companies. It was more of a public service, which is actually required by law. Every news media was required to devote a certain amount of time on government issues of public concern.

With the advent of cable and the much larger market it was inevitable that in order to maintain a profitable market share, almost all News Media now employ a form of entertainment and pathos to increase audiences.

And as Trump is a natural TV personality through his TV show The Apprentice, he was able to manipulate his popularity by getting free time, for any of his outrageous claims and antics.  He was a money maker for every News Medium that wanted to increase their ratings.

Oh a little news flash, Trump has started his own News Broadcast on Facebook. God help us all! (and I’m an atheist)

Which is the real thing to be concerned about, the desire to sell news in the end is not compatible with presenting objective and unbiased reporting.

I also think that Fox News is a troubling example of this. Comedians like Stephen Colbert made fun of the shock effect that Fox “News” constantly tries to achieve with it viewers, making fun of Bill O’Reilly’s shock journalism with his “Threat Down.” Remember how scary BEARS! are.

Even Fox eventually got rid of totally ridiculous purveyors of this like Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin but much of the damage is already done. How many people refused to vote for Clinton due to years of being told just how dangerous Democrats were based on this highly skewed form of “journalism”.

If Obama was even close to being the evil overlord the Fox network painted him as for years then the US would no longer exist and it certainly wouldn’t have been able to remove him from power through an election. It also created a ready audience for outright liars like trump who claimed for years that Obama wasn’t even born in America based on nothing more than rumors created by people who were offended that a black man had become president.

Trump as president was made entirely possible by how detached from reality much of the reporting in the US has become, but the worst offenders are on the far right and Breitbart is the worst of that not even caring to conceal the deeply racist aspects of the journal. In fact it takes pride in being the meeting group for the alt-right - which is just another for ugly old racism.

Trump condemns most media he doesn’t control as being “fake” news, but the critical factor to understand is that almost everything that trump communicates is meant to deceive not inform.

Everything trump says is entirely based on the evidence about 5% of the time and entirely devoid of evidence about 15% with a heavy focus to being mostly false almost 70% of the time. That could only be possible by intent.

Trump “news” is in fact the Big Lie.

I could not agree more.

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DougC - 05 August 2017 09:59 PM
Beltane - 05 August 2017 09:45 PM

Two different things. MSM is dying. They’ve been reduced to putting out absurd clickbait articles for their elderly, depressed readers.

Bannon just found a growing audience and steered Brietbart in that direction.


All media is in transition, it’s not dying.

The transition already happened, and MSM has no place in the new media world.

Bannon didn’t find a growing audience, he created a platform for the worst that society has to offer. Turning Breitbart into a vehicle for white supremacists has nothing to do with providing genuine journalism for an audience that wants the facts.

It’s there to send out constant dog whistles for extremists, nothing more.

Leave out White Supremacists and the same could be said of MSM.

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Write4U - 06 August 2017 12:04 AM

If I compare the objectivity in reporting and commentary of MSNBC with Fox News, the difference is stunning.
IMO, with the exception of PBS (a non-profit), MSNBC has the most knowledgeable and objective reporters and commentators.

MSNBC is clearly leftist.

Here’s an interesting study on MSNBC from Pew: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2013/03/18/pew-study-finds-msnbc-the-most-opinionated-cable-news-channel-by-far/#2b67f1995f8c

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