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Does America need the law of the jungle - the second amenemnt to the US Constitution?
Posted: 10 October 2017 09:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Sukhamaya (Sam) Bain - 04 October 2017 06:14 PM

A mentally deranged man can buy guns; and he shoots to kill 26 people, including 20 lovely little children, at an elementary school. And the President of the USA weeps. His administration and the US Congress remain essentially impotent spectators of this kind of horrible tragedies!

One man can buy more than 30 high-powered guns; and he shoots to kill 58 people and injure more than 500 people in an outdoor concert. And the President of the USA is proud to be an American because of the professionalism of the hospital staff that treated the injured and of the victims that showed the bravery to help other fellow victims. But his administration and the US Congress remain essentially impotent spectators of this kind of horrible tragedies!

The tragedies keep repeating!!

Isn’t it overdue for the USA to repeal the second amendment to its Constitution?

No.

In civilized human societies, shouldn’t ordinary citizens get protection through laws and law enforces?

Yes, along with the legal possibility of self-defense.

Should they need private ownership of guns? Should guns be so easily available in this country?

Yes.

Why is it that civilized people in civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

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Posted: 10 October 2017 09:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Sukhamaya (Sam) Bain - 05 October 2017 06:48 PM

So, what do you think about the information and my comments above the questions that I asked?

I disagree the government is unable to do anything. More likely that politicians are wary about loosing support from the public and donors over an issue that controversial.

There has been some word just recently about the possibility of a bump stock ban.

Well THAT should do a lot to lower the rate of firearm deaths.

The point is one change in legislation may lead to more. (Not that I want that). wink

Why Does it seem to work in civilized countries among civilized people?

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Posted: 11 October 2017 07:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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LoisL - 10 October 2017 09:51 PM

Why is it that cicilized people on civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

LL

Americans are 10 times more likely to be killed by guns than people in other developed countries!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/

And that was found before the spectacular firearm homicides in recent years!!

Doesn’t the USA have a serious reason for being ashamed as a nation?

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Posted: 11 October 2017 07:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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LoisL - 10 October 2017 09:51 PM

Why is it that cicilized people on civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

LL

Different histories.

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Posted: 11 October 2017 09:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Beltane - 11 October 2017 07:43 PM
LoisL - 10 October 2017 09:51 PM

Why is it that civilized people in civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

LL

Different histories.

No, brain damage among the Americans. It interferes with sensible legislation.

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Posted: 13 October 2017 01:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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LoisL - 11 October 2017 09:46 PM
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LoisL - 10 October 2017 09:51 PM

Why is it that civilized people in civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

LL

Different histories.

No, brain damage among the Americans. It interferes with sensible legislation.

Do you know what caused this brain damage?

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Posted: 13 October 2017 08:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Sukhamaya (Sam) Bain - 11 October 2017 07:13 PM
LoisL - 10 October 2017 09:51 PM

Why is it that cicilized people on civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

LL

Americans are 10 times more likely to be killed by guns than people in other developed countries!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/

And that was found before the spectacular firearm homicides in recent years!!

Doesn’t the USA have a serious reason for being ashamed as a nation?

It has one enormous reason—the moron in the White House.

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Posted: 13 October 2017 09:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Beltane - 13 October 2017 01:59 PM
LoisL - 11 October 2017 09:46 PM
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LoisL - 10 October 2017 09:51 PM

Why is it that civilized people in civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

LL

Different histories.

No, brain damage among the Americans. It interferes with sensible legislation.

Do you know what caused this brain damage?

Yes, the ignorance of untrammeled capitalism and the Republican party.

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Posted: 14 October 2017 09:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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LoisL - 13 October 2017 09:01 PM
Beltane - 13 October 2017 01:59 PM
LoisL - 11 October 2017 09:46 PM
Beltane - 11 October 2017 07:43 PM
LoisL - 10 October 2017 09:51 PM

Why is it that civilized people in civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

LL

Different histories.

No, brain damage among the Americans. It interferes with sensible legislation.

Do you know what caused this brain damage?

Yes, the ignorance of untrammeled capitalism and the Republican party.

Capitalism is why the 2nd amendment exists? Explain how that works.

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Posted: 14 October 2017 10:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Beltane - 11 October 2017 07:43 PM
LoisL - 10 October 2017 09:51 PM

Why is it that cicilized people on civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

LL

Different histories.

No, more guns and a deliberate misinterpretation of the Second Amendment.

LL

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Posted: 16 October 2017 06:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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LoisL - 14 October 2017 10:55 AM
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LoisL - 10 October 2017 09:51 PM

Why is it that cicilized people on civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

LL

Different histories.

No, more guns and a deliberate misinterpretation of the Second Amendment.

LL

Misinterpreted how?

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Posted: 16 October 2017 06:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Sukhamaya (Sam) Bain - 05 October 2017 06:48 PM

So, what do you think about the information and my comments above the questions that I asked?

I disagree the government is unable to do anything. More likely that politicians are wary about loosing support from the public and donors over an issue that controversial.

There has been some word just recently about the possibility of a bump stock ban.

Well THAT should do a lot to lower the rate of firearm deaths.

The point is one change in legislation may lead to more. (Not that I want that). wink

Why would it when countries with real gun control have less than half the firearm deaths per 100.000 population as we have in the US? Are they just better people?

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Posted: 16 October 2017 06:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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LoisL - 10 October 2017 09:51 PM

Why is it that cicilized people on civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

LL

Different histories.

No, more guns and a deliberate misinterpretation of the Second Amendment.

LL

Misinterpreted how?

If you don’t know yet, you’ll never know, no matter how many times anyone explains it. Read the Second Amendment, including the part about militias being necessary. There are no more civilian militias in the US, in case you haven’t noticed—so no reason for the citizenry to be armed—except to create mayhem.

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Posted: 17 October 2017 08:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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LoisL - 16 October 2017 06:29 PM
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LoisL - 14 October 2017 10:55 AM
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LoisL - 10 October 2017 09:51 PM

Why is it that cicilized people on civilized countries don’t seem to feel the need to carry guns for self defense? And why do they so seldom have a need for a gun for self defense?

LL

Different histories.

No, more guns and a deliberate misinterpretation of the Second Amendment.

LL

Misinterpreted how?

If you don’t know yet, you’ll never know, no matter how many times anyone explains it. Read the Second Amendment, including the part about militias being necessary. There are no more civilian militias in the US, in case you haven’t noticed—so no reason for the citizenry to be armed—except to create mayhem.

Pure nonsense. This idea of misinterpretation is posited by a few leftist talking heads at best. Nobody in legal authority agrees.

The second amendment

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Clearly, it doesn’t say the people must be militia members in order to bear arms.  What’s more, is militia has severaldefinitions, one of which reflects the amendment’s interpretation over the past 200+ years.

Definition of militia
1a :a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency The militia was called to quell the riot.
  b :a body of citizens organized for military service
2:the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service

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Posted: 18 October 2017 03:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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For a fact, when written the Second Amendment was needed.  Long story short, as written it is no longer needed.  In saying that I am not advocating that no citizen has the right to own a gun, but what kind and why should be limited.  In the least we should tweak it greatly or totally re-wright it.

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