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Posted: 06 November 2017 09:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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TromboneAndrew - 04 November 2017 10:59 AM

There are mineral reserves in space that simply aren’t easily available here on Earth. .

how does a mineral become a “reserve”?

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Posted: 06 November 2017 06:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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TromboneAndrew - 04 November 2017 07:33 AM
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With aaaaaaall money it gets, it STILL needs “the right politician”? common. I have a better suggestion: How about we kick all of them out and bring in news crews to do the job for half or quarter the price? And we get them to create jobs for those who have none, with the rest of the left over money?

By “it” do you mean NASA? I suggest you go find some estimates on how much it would cost to build a moon base, and look at NASA’s current annual budget.

How about you tell me how are they going to make up for the 350 millions $‘s they are already wasting here and there?... first? Based on the evidence they seem to believe that they can go ahead and just blow the cash away with full impunity.

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Posted: 06 November 2017 08:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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InBetween - 06 November 2017 06:52 PM

How about you tell me how are they going to make up for the 350 millions $‘s they are already wasting here and there?... first? Based on the evidence they seem to believe that they can go ahead and just blow the cash away with full impunity.

Uh, what? Backtracking to that story you quoted, it seems like Congress wasted that money, not NASA. Can you please clarify who you’re talking about?

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Posted: 06 November 2017 08:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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psikeyhackr - 06 November 2017 09:02 AM
TromboneAndrew - 04 November 2017 10:59 AM

There are mineral reserves in space that simply aren’t easily available here on Earth. .

how does a mineral become a “reserve”?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_resource_estimation

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Posted: 07 November 2017 05:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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TromboneAndrew - 06 November 2017 08:41 PM
InBetween - 06 November 2017 06:52 PM

How about you tell me how are they going to make up for the 350 millions $‘s they are already wasting here and there?... first? Based on the evidence they seem to believe that they can go ahead and just blow the cash away with full impunity.

Uh, what? Backtracking to that story you quoted, it seems like Congress wasted that money, not NASA. Can you please clarify who you’re talking about?

Ok, sorry. But the problem remains. Neither one of them seem to have a good sense of priorities. How about we first insure that everybody who wants a job in this country gets one? Instead of shipping them to Chinese and Benglasheans, because the over head cost is low that way, and the big guys get to make more money that way to the detriment of lower class? We need to insure the basics are covered. Jobs, housing, good basic health, etc. Then the left overs go to Agencies like NASA, CIA etc.

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Posted: 11 November 2017 06:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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InBetween - 07 November 2017 05:14 PM

Ok, sorry. But the problem remains. Neither one of them seem to have a good sense of priorities. How about we first insure that everybody who wants a job in this country gets one? Instead of shipping them to Chinese and Benglasheans, because the over head cost is low that way, and the big guys get to make more money that way to the detriment of lower class? We need to insure the basics are covered. Jobs, housing, good basic health, etc. Then the left overs go to Agencies like NASA, CIA etc.

This sounds exactly like the current state of affairs.

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Posted: 11 November 2017 08:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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TromboneAndrew - 11 November 2017 06:52 AM
InBetween - 07 November 2017 05:14 PM

Ok, sorry. But the problem remains. Neither one of them seem to have a good sense of priorities. How about we first insure that everybody who wants a job in this country gets one? Instead of shipping them to Chinese and Benglasheans, because the over head cost is low that way, and the big guys get to make more money that way to the detriment of lower class? We need to insure the basics are covered. Jobs, housing, good basic health, etc. Then the left overs go to Agencies like NASA, CIA etc.

This sounds exactly like the current state of affairs.

NOPE!  it does not. And apparently you seem to believe that you are the center of the universe. If you have a job, over 45 million Americans are on food stamps while 44 million illegals are sucking this country’s blood DRY, while you think somebody should have even more billions than they already have so they could threw half of it in the garbage doing nothing. VERY SMART, I am very impressed.
Oh, yeah, and WHAT ELSE?!?!?! the Russians helped elect Trump. Yeah that’s it!!!!! Poor Seth Rich.

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Posted: 12 November 2017 10:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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InBetween, I don’t know you and I don’t care what you think of me.

I may be wrong, but I get the impression that you don’t like to do actual research. You can start with your search engine of choice or - heaven forbid - a local library. Since you’re concerned about spending in NASA, here’s one place to start:

https://www.usaspending.gov/Pages/TextView.aspx?data=AgenciesMostFundedByFiscalYear

and here you can see how NASA is spending its money:

https://www.usaspending.gov/Pages/TextView.aspx?data=AgencyMostFundedRecipientsByAwardType&AwardType=C&agencycode=8000

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Posted: 13 November 2017 02:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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TromboneAndrew - 12 November 2017 10:35 AM

  ......but I get the impression that you don’t like to do actual research. .....

See? INDEED, you do think you are the center of the universe. And there is a saying uttered about your category. It goes along something like this: “Some will be Greatly Disappointed when they Wake Up and Find Out that they are NOT the center of the universe.”.

Go do your homework, INSTEAD of obliviously accusing others of being the ones that need to. Or you don’t like it when others happen to know what you don’t But SHOULD….
LIKELY.

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Posted: 13 November 2017 04:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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The center of the universe is technically undefined, so yes I am. smile

So are you.

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Posted: 27 November 2017 03:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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TromboneAndrew - 13 November 2017 04:06 PM

The center of the universe is technically undefined, so yes I am. smile

So are you.

I used to believe that but I wizened up. Today I am aware that I AM only THIS: ‘.’  , nothing more. As such, I sometimes realize that I am very fortunate person.  But Like Garfield said:  “that is aaall.”  LOL ...Love that little guy…

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Posted: 27 November 2017 04:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u0rQ7J3oS4

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Posted: 27 November 2017 06:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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InBetween - 03 November 2017 01:31 PM
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InBetween - 01 November 2017 03:46 PM

Guess what the price tag was?!?!? 350 million dollars!!!!

You specified the amount.
Provide the link.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-01-09/in-mississippi-nasas-350-million-tower-of-pork
I typed this: “NASA 350 million tower” and I got I think no less than 420k results. But we only need the first page really. Thanks for asking :smile:

“Instead, its funding survived thanks to Mississippi Republican Senators Roger Wicker, who wrote an amendment to a 2010 NASA bill requiring the agency to wrap up the work, and Thad Cochran, who advocated for the spending from his seat on the Appropriations Committee.”

Why not acknowledge that little detail before dissing NASA?

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Posted: 27 November 2017 06:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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InBetween - 27 November 2017 04:07 PM

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=1u0rQ7J3oS4

That was really weird.

What are you doing?
What the hell did TromboneAndrew say that made you claim he believes he’s the center of the universe?

Seems to me he asked some reasonable questions and made a couple good points along with some questionable, but at least he was staying on topic. 
Why can’t you simply counter with your side of that issue, that would be your dissing NASA rather than drag it into this lalaland?
Like explaining why you blame NASA for something that was Republican Pork Barrel Politics?  smirk
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Although Andrew, I don’t understand how many so glibly draw parallels between space travel and Earthly voyages of discovery across our planet’s oceans.
They really aren’t equivocal my any stretch of the imagination technically or from a lebensraum perspective.

As for the gravity issue, at 1/6th of Earth’s gravity, that may create as many mining processing problems as advantages, since most hard rock milling and extraction is a gravity feed operation.  Oh and it uses lots and lots of water.

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Posted: 27 November 2017 06:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 27 November 2017 06:09 PM
InBetween - 27 November 2017 04:07 PM

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=1u0rQ7J3oS4

Although Andrew, I find it bizarre beyond comprehension how glibly people draw parallels between space travel and Earthly voyages of discovery across our planet’s oceans.
They really aren’t equivocal my any stretch of the imagination technically or from a lebensraum perspective.

As for the gravity issue, at 1/6th of Earth’s gravity, that may create as many mining processing problems as advantages, since most hard rock milling and extraction is a gravity feed operation.  Oh and it uses lots and lots of water.

Did I make that comparison somewhere here? Well, I have in the past, but I think the comparison needs to go back a few more centuries than German expansionism. (Yes, I had to look up Lebensraum!) Right now we seem to be in the rough equivalent in space travel to the space between the Vikings doing their voyages to Iceland and beyond and Christopher Columbus’s famous voyage. Sure, the scope is different but there aren’t really any other close-ish parallels that I know of to the challenges of space travel.

As for asteroid/moon mining, the biggest problem as far as I know, given lack of atmosphere, is heat distribution - the lack thereof.

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