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Posted: 30 December 2017 02:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 121 ]
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Yes

Buddhism was completely different and the Greeks converted to Buddhism and seriously changed it over some 900 years.

The very first statues of the Buddha were done by ancient Greeks - none before

The temples were built by ancient Greeks - none before.

And the whole time the Greeks added Greek thought and religious practices to Buddhism.

So yes Buddhism is a Greek religion.

Wow it takes a lot of work for you to learn something.

Greco-Buddhism, or Graeco-Buddhism, is the cultural syncretism between Hellenistic culture and Buddhism, which developed between the 4th century BC and the 5th century AD in Bactria and the Indian subcontinent, corresponding to the territories of modern-day Afghanistan, Tajikistan, India, and Pakistan.[citation needed] It was a cultural consequence of a long chain of interactions begun by Greek forays into India from the time of Alexander the Great, carried further by his successors’ establishment of the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom and, later, Indo-Greek Kingdom, and extended during the flourishing of the Kushan Empire. Buddhism was then adopted in Central and Northeastern Asia from the 1st century AD, ultimately spreading to China, Korea, Japan, the Philippines, Siberia, and Vietnam.

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Posted: 30 December 2017 10:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 122 ]
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I learn from people who reference sources. You have taken statues and turned them into philosophy.

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Posted: 30 December 2017 11:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 123 ]
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my word is not good enough

do your own research a thousand or so years

the cultural syncretism between Hellenistic culture and Buddhism, which developed between the 4th century BC and the 5th century AD in Bactria and the Indian subcontinent

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Posted: 31 December 2017 05:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 124 ]
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Boris - 30 December 2017 02:55 PM

Yes

Buddhism was completely different and the Greeks converted to Buddhism and seriously changed it over some 900 years.
The very first statues of the Buddha were done by ancient Greeks - none before
The temples were built by ancient Greeks - none before.

And the whole time the Greeks added Greek thought and religious practices to Buddhism.

So yes Buddhism is a Greek religion.

Wow it takes a lot of work for you to learn something.

Using ad hominem to prove a point seriously affects the value of your argument.

Greco-Buddhism, or Graeco-Buddhism, is the cultural syncretism between Hellenistic culture and Buddhism, which developed between the 4th century BC and the 5th century AD in Bactria and the Indian subcontinent, corresponding to the territories of modern-day Afghanistan, Tajikistan, India, and Pakistan.[citation needed] It was a cultural consequence of a long chain of interactions begun by Greek forays into India from the time of Alexander the Great, carried further by his successors’ establishment of the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom and, later, Indo-Greek Kingdom, and extended during the flourishing of the Kushan Empire. Buddhism was then adopted in Central and Northeastern Asia from the 1st century AD, ultimately spreading to China, Korea, Japan, the Philippines, Siberia, and Vietnam.

Except you are completely ignoring that Buddha lived and taught his wisdom long before Alexander was even born and his teachings were only locally known as he travelled extensively, but I seriously doubt that he ever visited Greece.

Thus if you had qualified your statement that Buddhism was being practiced long before the Greeks had even heard of it and what we know to today as Buddhism is actually a modified version of his original teaching, i.e. the Greco-Buddhism version, you would have been more correct.

Your explanation lacks clarity of historical facts.  While Greco-Buddhist statues became famous for their excellence in craftsmanship, in the areas where Buddha taught there are many artifacts such as models of his footprint and artistic symbolic representations of his teachings, long before the Greeks had even heard the name Buddha.

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Posted: 31 December 2017 05:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 125 ]
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You may want to study these historical facts before you make bold definitive statements.

Buddhist art is the artistic practices that are influenced by Buddhism. It includes art media which depict Buddhas, bodhisattvas, and other entities; notable Buddhist figures, both historical and mythical; narrative scenes from the lives of all of these; mandalas and other graphic aids to practice; as well as physical objects associated with Buddhist practice, such as vajras, bells, stupas and Buddhist temple architecture.[1] Buddhist art originated on the Indian subcontinent following the historical life of Siddhartha Gautama, 6th to 5th century BCE, and thereafter evolved by contact with other cultures as it spread throughout Asia and the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_art

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Buddhist religious architecture developed in the Indian subcontinent. Three types of structures are associated with the religious architecture of early Buddhism: monasteries (viharas), places to venerate relics (stupas), and shrines or prayer halls (chaityas, also called chaitya grihas), which later came to be called temples in some places.

The initial function of a stupa was the veneration and safe-guarding of the relics of Gautama Buddha. The earliest surviving example of a stupa is in Sanchi (Madhya Pradesh).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_architecture

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Posted: 31 December 2017 09:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 126 ]
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What’s your point Boris?  Buddhism is still what it is today regardless of how you think it came about. So is Christianity. Your claims are not going to have a iota worth of effect on their state of being.

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Posted: 31 December 2017 11:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 127 ]
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Boris - 30 December 2017 11:57 PM

my word is not good enough

do your own research a thousand or so years

the cultural syncretism between Hellenistic culture and Buddhism, which developed between the 4th century BC and the 5th century AD in Bactria and the Indian subcontinent

I do my own research. We have made different conclusions. We can have an adult discussion,  or you can keep doing whatever it is you are doing.

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Posted: 31 December 2017 02:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 128 ]
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My point is Buddhism is Greek - influenced by Greek religious thought and practices for the best part of 1000 years because of and after Alexander

Greco-Buddhism, or Graeco-Buddhism, is the cultural syncretism between Hellenistic culture and Buddhism, which developed between the 4th century BC and the 5th century AD in Bactria and the Indian subcontinent

Pyrrhonism: How the Ancient Greeks Reinvented Buddhism

Pyrrhonism is commonly confused with scepticism in Western philosophy. Unlike sceptics, who believe there are no true beliefs, Pyrrhonists suspend judgment about all beliefs, including the belief that there are no true beliefs. Pyrrhonism was developed by a line of ancient Greek philosophers, from its founder Pyrrho of Elis in the fourth century BCE through Sextus Empiricus in the second century CE. Pyrrhonists offer no view, theory, or knowledge about the world, but recommend instead a practice, a distinct way of life, designed to suspend beliefs and ease suffering. Adrian Kuzminski examines Pyrrhonism in terms of its striking similarity to some Eastern non-dogmatic soteriological traditions-particularly Madhyamaka Buddhism. He argues that its origin can plausibly be traced to the contacts between Pyrrho and the sages he encountered in India, where he traveled with Alexander the Great. Although Pyrrhonism has not been practiced in the West since ancient times, its insights have occasionally been independently recovered, most recently in the work of Ludwig Wittgenstein. Kuzminski shows that Pyrrhonism remains relevant perhaps more than ever as an antidote to today’s cultures of belief.

https://www.amazon.com/Pyrrhonism-Reinvented-Buddhism-Comparative-Philosophy/dp/0739125060

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Posted: 01 January 2018 03:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 129 ]
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Yes, and Christianity is American. It’s been that way for almost 300 years.

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Posted: 01 January 2018 05:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 130 ]
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Boris, are you reading books, or just descriptions of books? This says Phyro was influenced by the sages, the opposite of what you’ve been saying.

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Posted: 01 January 2018 03:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 131 ]
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The ancient Greeks influenced Buddhism for almost 1000 years because of Alexander - so Buddhism is a Greek religion

that is what I am saying

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Posted: 01 January 2018 07:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 132 ]
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Boris - 01 January 2018 03:29 PM

The ancient Greeks influenced Buddhism for almost 1000 years because of Alexander - so Buddhism is a Greek religion

that is what I am saying

One simple question; Who taught Buddha Buddhism, the Greeks? 

Everyone understands what you are trying to say, but the way you are saying it is a contradiction in terms.

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Posted: 01 January 2018 07:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 133 ]
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there was an original religion but is was dying out

the Greeks got hold of it and added to it to the extent that now there is little if anything left of the original

Buddhism now is Greek - it is classified as a Graeco-Indian religion but more Greek than anything else

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Posted: 01 January 2018 08:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 134 ]
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Boris - 01 January 2018 07:34 PM

there was an original religion but is was dying out

the Greeks got hold of it and added to it to the extent that now there is little if anything left of the original

Buddhism now is Greek - it is classified as a Graeco-Indian religion but more Greek than anything else

Well, not being a Buddhist, I’ll leave it to an adherent to argue the merits of the Greek influence on the original philosophy of Buddha and its evolution.  http://www.patheos.com/library/buddhism

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Posted: 01 January 2018 08:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 135 ]
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there is nothing left of the original religion to say what is not Greek - its all Greek

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