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Posted: 04 April 2007 01:34 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Posted: 04 April 2007 02:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I would have let him. But more for my own enjoyment and the shock the Joneses effect than compassion for his needs.

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Posted: 04 April 2007 02:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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What time of day was it?  If it were daytime and all he wanted to do was pray in the yard, then I guess I’d let him.  It’s a little weird and a very unusual request, but I don’t see the harm.  I wouldn’t let him into the house to pray though.  He would have to stay outside no matter what.

However, if it was dark, no, he’d have to find some place else to pray.

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Posted: 04 April 2007 03:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Posted: 04 April 2007 03:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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[quote author=“George Benedik”]Mriana,

It was dark: nine o’clock in the evening. The whole thing was just bizarre…

Well, then no.  He would have to find some place else to do his praying, but then again, he probably would not have asked me- I’m a woman, so I’m second class in his eyes (or so I hear that about Muslim males).

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Posted: 04 April 2007 05:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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“shock the joneses” effect as in keeping up with the Joneses

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Posted: 04 April 2007 05:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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[quote author=“George Benedik”]
It was dark: nine o’clock in the evening. The whole thing was just bizarre…

Yeah ha, can you just imagine the sight?! What fun you would have had. But then I am a huge fan of the bizarre. My restaurant is nestled on a street with several different churches a Mosque and a synagogue, so we often have people praying, sometimes quite animatedly, before they enjoy their meal. And they are mostly all praying to a different one true god! Life is beautiful. :D

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Posted: 05 April 2007 01:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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FWIW, I think I probably would have let him, unless for some reason I felt physically threatened. Kindness to strangers and all that, particularly when the strangers may well feel alien in the dominant culture.

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Posted: 05 April 2007 07:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Well, a woman by herself, even with children, would feel unnervingly uncomfortable and maybe a bit threatened, but like I said, it would be very highly unlikely he would ask a woman such a question.

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Posted: 05 April 2007 12:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Wow, what a great question! I’m honestly not sure what I’d do. First impulse is to let the guy pray for simple “be nice to others” reasons (and maybe a tiny bit of Chris’ “shock the Joneses” fun too). But then I wonder if I’d let a Satanist pray in my yard, or a group of Jehovah’s witnesses, or some political activist driven to hold vigil in random people’s yards. Would I let anyone else with a worldview I don’t agree with exercise their obligations to that worldview in front of my house. Are we giving a special pass to religion again here?

My mother (old-fashioned atheist socialist hippy type) heard the story and mentioned that she’s the only one in her neighborhood (a senior community) who lets the roving mormon evangelism teams use her bathroom. She’s not especially interested in their message, but she feels compassion for anyone who needs to pee, and besides she gets a kick out of 20-year old boys introducing themselves to her as “Elder So-&-So.”

I guess I probab ly would let him pray unless given too much time to think about it too much, as I’m doing here :wink:

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Posted: 05 April 2007 01:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Posted: 05 April 2007 02:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Are you obligated to let anyone pray in your front yard??

Hell no!

I would’ve asked him if I could perform a scientific experiment in his yard that just might falsify religiosity, nonetheless Muhommad *.

It goes both ways. Now, how one feels or deals with that circumstance is up to them but one need not feel obligated at any rate.

* insert savior or prophet of preference here.

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Posted: 05 April 2007 03:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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That is a hard question.
But something to consider, some culture are interwoven with their religion. This poor guy has been programmed from birth like most religious people. Some cultures don’t let kids run free like do here or expose then to free thought or even books. His guy might have had his religion beaten into at an early age.
But it you told him you were an atheist, he might move to the next yard or ask questions.

You could have joined him and learn about his culture. And if you did, wear a tuber around that afternoon and do yard work. It would freak out your neighbors. :?

And about the seventy-two virgins thing. How cool is that, all Christian get when they die, is to fly around God and tell him how great he is. No wonder Islam is one of the fastest growing religions for men.

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Posted: 05 April 2007 04:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Committing Suicide is a Major Sin:
Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 445:

Narrated Jundab the Prophet said, “A man was inflicted with wounds and he committed suicide, and so Allah said: My slave has caused death on himself hurriedly, so I forbid Paradise for him.”

Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 73:

Narrated Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak: “And if somebody commits suicide with anything in this world, he will be tortured with that very thing on the Day of Resurrection.”

4: Women
4:2 Give unto orphans their wealth. Exchange not the good for the bad (in your management thereof) nor absorb their wealth into your own wealth. Lo! that would be a great sin.

4:82 Will they not then ponder on the Qur’an ? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity.

haha!
All biblical book tales have contradictions and incongruity rolleyes
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Posted: 05 April 2007 04:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Islam started from a dream. Mahommed had a dream, he wrote it all down as a vision, and Islam began, so I was told by a prof.  What a way to start a new religion.  rolleyes  Well, if you want 72 virgins, that’s one way to get them.

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Posted: 05 April 2007 05:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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As a Believe, Logic and facts are not your best friend, you try to keep that out of you head. You have to work very hard at this. That is why you have to truth God and have faith. If you start think about it, you get in trouble, so you don’t do that.

If you read something in your holy book (bible), if it tells you to do something you don’t want to do or not do, you look for another passage that does let you do what you want.

That is why you need God to help you read the bible, if you look at the words only, you would find mistakes and contradictions. But if you read the words with God, you don’t see the mistakes.
God help you intrepid the words so you can do anything you want.

Faith is like putting a blindfold on and walking down the middle of town. You have Faith, God will guide you. If you walk into pole or get hit by a car, that is your fault, you did not truth God enough. If you ask something someone for help, they tell you, “You don’t have enough faith!”

You keep telling yourself God is perfect and the trouble is you.

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