I don’t find it difficult to provide medical care, education, books & toys for 5 children on 1 income. I think this is a matter of priorities, goals & motivation.
Well, not everyplace is USA. Although I have a nice living and while I could have another kid without any troubles, I would find difficult to provide five childrens with the confort I’d like. And at least till now, here college is free, but I did the figures thinking that maybe in 18 eighteen year it won’t be the case. Of course it’s matter of goals and priorities: I must be sure to be able to afford until college for all my childrens.
As far I as know, in Europe the trouble is the space: I would find almost impossible to raise a children in a fifty square meters apartament.
No doubt, but it doens’t mean that one could decide to go outside our culture.
I “go outside culture” every time I decide not to drink soda pop…
Well, sometimes I do this kind of contraculturals acts. But I don’t dare to go much beyond, as not paying for my kid recreational activities which integrate him into his comunity, for instance. Or I wouldn’t dare to deny to make a party in his birthday.
To take it another step, if scientists were convinced by scientific studies that collective idiocy would destroy the planet in X years in the future with equal certainty that we know the earth is round, would you support domesticating idiots via media, propoganda, business & government control?
I really don’t know. I don’t have problems with ‘domesticating’ (really, I don’t like the word, I prefer ‘manui) through the media, propaganda and business… but ‘goverment control’? what does it means?. I guess we are approaching a hard question: what does ‘free will’ mean?. I don’t have any troubles with propaganda if it has any ground, and I understand that is very hard to tell if one is free from manipulation… but anyway, I think this goal would be achieve with a important level of freedom, or not achieved at all…
Keep in mind that to refuse on moral grounds would be claiming that domesticating animals is just as wrong, because we can’t know for sure that this act will lead to a better, safer, longer lasting world.
Well, I don’t know if I could call it ‘moral’, but my grounds are the fact that after a violent and extreme kind of ‘domestication’ ussually there is no turning back (or at least, no easy turning back). And I don’t like the idea of saving the world to the price of being a slave… because… how I could know that I would be in the master part of the population?.
Can you think of more effective methods to bring about goals in the example of this idiot populated world than through media, propoganda, business & government?
Idiot populate world?. I must admit that I feel far more confortable saying that ‘the vast majority of people behave like idiots much of time’ than saying ‘the vast majority of people are idiots’.
Well, and after all, I guess yes, there is a way. Maybe it is not as quickly as manipulation, but I have a strong confidence in education.