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And they call this the “love of God”?
Posted: 29 August 2007 02:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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im sitting at my desk and listening to a couple of ladies talk about the glory of God (they do this often!) and I was reflecting on my thoughts and what I just read by Michaek Bakunin (the famous Russian anarchist):

If God really existed it would
be necessary to abolish him.

Bakunin was also talking about how God - if he existed - is a Master and we are slaves.

Then I went back to hearing the ladies talk about God and I thought to myself, “these ladies suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.”

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Posted: 29 August 2007 02:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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You know, truthaddict, I have often thought that about the extremely religious.

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Posted: 29 August 2007 03:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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truthaddict - 29 August 2007 02:44 PM

“these ladies suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.”

ohhh! Interesting perspective, yea!

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Posted: 29 August 2007 03:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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im sure there is a similarity that can be studied

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Posted: 29 August 2007 04:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Since I am bisexual I can tell you as a manner of fact I was born this way and did not choose to be bisexual. I prefer men over women, but I like much older men and have never had an attraction for children and I believe anyone that does has a mental problem. In fact I have met only about 1% of the gay population that were attracted to children and I never would have anything to do with such individuals. Both of my parents were heterosexuals being attracted to the opposite sex and I am the only one in my family attracted to both sexes, so neither my parents or siblings had anything to do with my sexual attraction and it is not a preference, but a natural thing. I do not know of any schools that promote homosexuality nor any TV shows. If I did not know any better I could swear on a stack of Rolls-Royce manuals that you might be a theist as theist say the same things, but you may just be misinformed or as they say; myth-informed.

The two posters before me know what they are talking about and next time you want to accuse a minority of doing something or acting in a particular way you best research the area because all of this propaganda told about gays is just that; propaganda used to reinforce religious dogma and has nothing to do with the real truth.

Gays are no different than any other gender and in fact are the “third sex” as the majority of them prefer partners their own age or older and not all of them are into the sort sex as you so quoted. 

And as many or more heterosexual men have anal sex with women as gay men.

And no one is going to teach your children anything you do not want them to know unless you expose them to the wrong crowd which would be the crowd you would hang out with. I raised fifteen adopted children and I never hung out with anyone that might influence my children’s thinking in any negative way.

And by the way of those 15 children I raised only one of them turned out gay as he was born that way and had been attracted to his own sex at an early age and he is now a successful professional man. All of the rest of my children were heterosexual and my second wife was also bisexual whereas we adopted three of those fifteen children and all three sons were heterosexual and all three married and had successful marriages.

So next time get your facts straight before jumping the gun and hurting all of the wrong people.

Ignorance hurts more people than sticks and stones.

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Posted: 29 August 2007 04:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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My former post was to Beesting to avoid any confusion.

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Posted: 29 August 2007 05:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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thanks, i was confused.

im perfectly cool with gay men. less competition for me!!!!

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Posted: 29 August 2007 07:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Holely Goat - 29 August 2007 04:05 PM

The two posters before me know what they are talking about and next time you want to accuse a minority of doing something or acting in a particular way you best research the area because all of this propaganda told about gays is just that; propaganda used to reinforce religious dogma and has nothing to do with the real truth.

And to think I learned all of that from the Psychology classes I took while trying to get a degree in Psychology.  Maybe I don’t give myself enough credit, but I was hoping someone who actually had experience with being a homosexual or bisexual would contribute in response to Beesting’s post so we could have an actual first hand account and not someone with just book knowledge.  When it comes to human psychology there is nothing better than experience, IMO.

Holely Goat - 29 August 2007 04:05 PM

Ignorance hurts more people than sticks and stones.

Yes, ignorance does more harm than anything else and the only questions that hurt are the ones unasked.  I have always told my sons this and I truly believe it too.

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Posted: 29 August 2007 10:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Beesting - 29 August 2007 05:24 AM

I just sorta have a wee itty-bitty problem (NO BIGGY) having to be forced every day, and having forced upon my children that men put their weiners into other men’s butt-holes, and make big wad because it is an acceptable practice, and it is GOOD. It is what must be. It is what life is all about. No! It is NOT! If I were to tuck your kiddies into bed some night, and explain to them that it is good to touch my dick, and to put their hands into places on people but for sure use a condom. Your kids? Well? How would you feel about that? Yeah. Me too.

I believe you are claiming that’s what’s taught in the Los Angeles city school system.  Maybe so, but I very strongly doubt it.

  Not that it’s wrong or anything, GAK!. Only that I really don’t think it is necessary to display the concept every day, on every television program, and in every movie, for whatever the purposes may be, and you know what those purposes are.
Would it be okay for me to raise my children without influencing them sexually in any manner? They will survey those things naturally, and without the moronic influences of Hollywood. The Child-Rape capitol of the world.

 

I watch a moderate amount of TV and go to the movies fairly frequently.  Unless you’ve got your kids watching some porn cable channels or taking them to adult theaters, I don’t see any evidence of what you describe.  Come on - talk about moronic.  You have no evidence that Hollywood has any greater level of child-rape than occurs in most large U.S. cities.  And, from all I’ve read, there’s a hell of a lot more child sexual exploitation taking place in many other countries than occurs anywhere in the U.S.

This crap is so extremely obvious, and condoning it is a serious slap in the face for my own kids.

 

When I took an Abnormal Psych class many years ago, I learned about Projection.  I think that may be what you are doing - imputing ideas to others that are really in your own mind, but which you don’t want to admit or deal with.

Is it okay if we’re all just straight? NOPE!!!! We are suppressing homosexual desires by attempting to procreate via the biblical and Billy-Graham Natural way. Can’t do that anymore. Can’t even be accepted as non-religious, and enjoying sex with a person of the “God-Forbid” opposite sex without being ridiculed. This is unreal….but it is real. It is happening, and when good becomes bad, and vise-versa.

I don’t know your internal basis for this rant, but you seem to be living in a very different “reality” from most of us.

Our girls got their fill of teachers telling them how to have anal sex safely, and brought their homework papers to us, along with the thick butt-condoms, and said. “WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?“We pulled them immediately. Math is not an issue, in public schools, and most definitely neither is any form of higher learning. It’s anal sex? Good luck with that. Not with my kids!
They are now home-schooled. tutored, and practicing dance and music, and art. They are outstanding, and intelligent enough from day-one to tell their parents that some crap is up, and they don’t need it.

 

I grew up in the Los Angeles City school system.  Although I now live about thirty-five miles south-west of you, and no longer in that system, I find your allegations hard to believe.  Could you document your statements with actual teaching guide quotations from the school system?

I was molested, and raped as a child. Think I’m going to allow a school system to groom and seduce my kids? Huh-UH!
That was a BIG to toss out there, but my family has nothing to hide from anyone EVER.
This indoctrination is really bad. You will see it if you haven’t seen it by now because of your big-ol self-prescribed granny blinders, and if you think it’s getting better because you want to make kids accept EVERYONE, you will wind-up at the feet of disappointment, and a really EFFED-UP family.

I’m sorry you had to go through that as a child.  I hope you were able to work through it with decent therapy.  However, is it possible that this has colored you view of society to the point that you are seeing things through that distorted lens?

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Posted: 29 August 2007 11:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Glad I could be of help. I used to become quite militant over these issues but as I have gotten older I realize a lot of people are just ignorant about the true nature of homosexuality and bisexuals because religious leaders have purposely lead them astray in order to promote the myth of God.

Now I try to explain things in a rational way so they can understand it as I get their attention a lot quicker than becoming angry and they usually are open for discussion as well.

That was why I first got into the civil rights movement was because I am bisexual, a Jew and an American Indian all in which bigots and the ignorant have attacked me for it as if I really am responsible for all three. Sometimes adults still act like children in their bigotry and hatred of anyone who does not live up to their standards or who are different than they are.

Can you imagine the scenario if every single person reacted the same way about anyone that was different than the other?
Civilization would have genocide its self long ago and only the animals would roam the earth.

A line has to be drawn in the sand or we let them carry their ignorance to the grave and pass it on to the next generation and the war against ignorance will then never end but be a never ending battle and we must not let it go on.

Now is the time to draw the pen and not the sword and sit down to the table and talk because war has never solved anything but more war.

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