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Huckabee on the signers of the Declaration of Independence
Posted: 01 November 2007 07:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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PaineMan - 01 November 2007 06:00 PM

Nobody here believes that they were all baptists.

I know I shouldn’t be wasting my time commenting on anything related to our poor misguided and ignorant Freddy, but I have a few spare minutes and will make this last comment here, hopefully for the benefit of someone.

One source I found stated that a mere 17% (or so) of male colonists admitted to even belonging to a faith.

Thomas Jefferson, who Freddy’s tiny group of Baptists claim as their own patron saint, did not believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ nor the existence of the Holy Trinity.  I could not find a Baptist sect that made these claims, rather they all seemed to believe in Jesus and the Trinity.  But I’m sure most people here were already aware of that.

BTW, Thomas Paine was Baptist.

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Posted: 01 November 2007 07:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Satan, Buddha, Dr. Jekyl, Mr. Hyde, Torquemada, and all the Neanderthals and CroMagnons were also Baptists, right?

How about the fish, and all the mammals - are they also Baptists?

Occam

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Posted: 01 November 2007 07:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Occam - 23 October 2007 02:17 PM

The trouble is that these myths are linguistic viruses.  Once that stupid statement is made publically, it will be repeated in churches, discussions and just general conversation.  Unfortunately, few people question such statements but just accept them (no doubt because of their religious training), and soon is is general “knowledge”. 

Occam

Occam is probably right.

However I see a lot of WWW sites being skeptical.

I am across this one
[talking points—LINK] requoting the same Huckabee is wrong line…

I haven’t tracked down where he got this info—anyone know?

The right wing is good at “linguistic viruses.”  Right wingers on the Supreme Court make false historical claims and then later scum bag Justices repeat them.  Case in point:  Justice Burger’s claim that the Congressional Chaplains opened each daily session of Congress with prayer.

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Posted: 01 November 2007 07:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Occam - 01 November 2007 07:25 PM

Satan, Buddha, Dr. Jekyl, Mr. Hyde, Torquemada, and all the Neanderthals and CroMagnons were also Baptists, right?

Satan is a Calvinist (and a conservative, by the way).  I don’t know about the others.  What was their stand on civil authority over religion?

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Posted: 01 November 2007 07:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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FredFlash - 01 November 2007 07:50 PM
Jackson - 01 November 2007 07:19 PM
Occam - 23 October 2007 02:17 PM

The trouble is that these myths are linguistic viruses.  Once that stupid statement is made publically, it will be repeated in churches, discussions and just general conversation.  Unfortunately, few people question such statements but just accept them (no doubt because of their religious training), and soon is is general “knowledge”. 

Occam

Occam is probably right.

However I see a lot of WWW sites being skeptical.

I am across this one
[talking points—LINK] requoting the same Huckabee is wrong line…

I haven’t tracked down where he got this info—anyone know?

The right wing is good at “linguistic viruses.”  Right wingers on the Supreme Court make false historical claims and then later scum bag Justices repeat them.  Case in point:  Justice Burger’s claim that the Congressional Chaplains opened each daily session of Congress with prayer.  Pure urban myth, baby!!!

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Posted: 02 November 2007 12:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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FredFlash - 01 November 2007 07:09 PM

The evidence that most the founders were Baptists is the fact that they established, by law, the Baptist doctrine of “Soul Liberty.”

Ha.  LOL  That’s hilarious!
Would it also make me a baptist if I were to walk down the street whistling a baptist hymn?

Get out and take a look around America Fred.  Spend less time on the internet.  Read a few of the books that were actually written by the founding fathers.  Visit their birthplaces.  Talk to a few real historians.  There is a lot more to America, and to reality, than there is inside tha fantastical bubble that your cult is keeping you in.

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Posted: 02 November 2007 12:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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FredFlash - 01 November 2007 07:19 PM

BTW, Thomas Paine was Baptist.

Ahahahahahahahahahahah!!!  Haaaaaaaah!  Oh my, oh my…. no you didn’t.  Hahahahahahahah… LOL

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

I think I’m going to bust my gut here.  Your killing me Fred.

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Posted: 02 November 2007 03:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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FredFlash - 01 November 2007 07:19 PM

BTW, Thomas Paine was Baptist.

That’s about the funniest statement we’ve heard here in a long while, yep.

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Posted: 02 November 2007 03:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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FredFlash - 01 November 2007 07:09 PM

The evidence that most the founders were Baptists is the fact that they established, by law, the Baptist doctrine of “Soul Liberty.”

Ha.  LOL  That’s hilarious!
Would it also make me a baptist if I were to walk down the street whistling a baptist hymn?

Get out and take a look around America Fred.  Spend less time on the internet.  Read a few of the books that were actually written by the founding fathers.  Visit their birthplaces.  Talk to a few real historians.  There is a lot more to America, and to reality, than there is inside tha fantastical bubble that your cult is keeping you in.

Dude, I do look around, and I see Separation of Church and State, which is evidence that most Americans are Baptist.

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Posted: 02 November 2007 04:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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FredFlash - 02 November 2007 03:52 AM

Dude, I do look around, and I see Separation of Church and State, which is evidence that most Americans are Baptist.

According to the U.S. Census most Americans are Roman Catholic, not Baptist.

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Posted: 02 November 2007 06:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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FredFlash - 02 November 2007 03:52 AM

Dude, I do look around, and I see Separation of Church and State, which is evidence that most Americans are Baptist.

According to the U.S. Census most Americans are Roman Catholic, not Baptist.

Catholics don’t believe in Separation of Church and State, dude.

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Posted: 02 November 2007 06:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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FredFlash - 02 November 2007 06:05 AM
George - 02 November 2007 04:25 AM
FredFlash - 02 November 2007 03:52 AM

Dude, I do look around, and I see Separation of Church and State, which is evidence that most Americans are Baptist.

According to the U.S. Census most Americans are Roman Catholic, not Baptist.

Catholics don’t believe in Separation of Church and State, dude.

And Catholics don’t eat meat on Good Friday. So what? I was only trying to point to your bogus claim that “most Americans are Baptist.”

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Posted: 02 November 2007 07:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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FredFlash - 02 November 2007 06:05 AM

Catholics don’t believe in Separation of Church and State, dude.

I know many catholics who believe in separation of church and state.  Do you have something against catholics now too?

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Posted: 02 November 2007 07:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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erasmusinfinity - 02 November 2007 07:22 AM

I know many catholics who believe in separation of church and state.  Do you have something against catholics now too?

I don’t think you understand, erasmusinfinity. Catholics can’t believe in separation of church and state because they aren’t Baptists.

See?

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Posted: 02 November 2007 12:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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erasmusinfinity - 02 November 2007 07:22 AM
FredFlash - 02 November 2007 06:05 AM

Catholics don’t believe in Separation of Church and State, dude.

I know many catholics who believe in separation of church and state. 

That is a contradiction in terms, dude.

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