[quote author=“dweather”]You express several times in your narrative of having strong, negative emotions and experiences toward things religious. For example, you wrote: “the assault continues to this day on a daily basis.” If you don’t mind, will you tell me specifically what you mean? Give some examples?
Well, I live in New York so examples are easy. On my way to work yesterday morning I was approached by two Jehovah’s Witnesses. When I politely stated that I was not interested in their group eyes were rolled and rude comments were made. Later in the afternoon I rode the subway, where I was preached at by screaming hate-mongers about how I, and other random folk on the train, were going to burn in hell for not “accepting” Jesus. I hadn’t said a word to them. Also on the street, yesterday, I encountered a group called the Twelve Tribers who were ranting on soap box, literally, about how they were the true Jews, the “other” Jews were impostors, and how we all need to divide into our racial-cultural tribes and prepare for a final confrontation. These guys had quite a physically intimidating stare. Next I enountered two mormons who approached me wanting to have a “talk.” Yes, this all really happened yesterday.
Why do I have negative feelings toward religious ideas? That’s an immense can of worms. Where should I begin? Monotheistic authoritarianism, scripture, clerical authoritarianism, in group/out-group division, class structure in society, superstition, etc.?
[quote author=“dweather”]I won’t defend or make excuses for religion/religious people. That’s not why I’m here. But I will say this, and it may sound weird, but I’d like to apologize to you for that. No one should have to go through what you experienced. You had valid concerns and questions.
You have nothing to do with it so please don’t apologize. I actually have no animosity toward any religious persons, not even them at this stage in my life. Only toward the bad ideas that mislead them. I care deeply about their emotionally disturbed state and would like to see them receive proper psychiatric assistance.
[quote author=“dweather”]You deserved straight answers! I am also sorry for the way “christians” have misrepresented Christ. What happened really didn’t look like Jesus, did it?
I got straight answers. Just that none of them were good because there aren’t good ones. I don’t think that anyone misrepresents any sort of christ because I’m rather convinced that there isn’t and wasn’t one. Nothing really looks like Jesus because he is a made up story, “he” doesn’t look like anything.
[quote author=“dweather”]Now I was not raised catholic (did I get that right?) like you, but I know a bit how you feel because I got a similar kind of treatment you described. I was ridiculed and called “stupid” for my questions as a teen. As an adult, I was badgered for ten years by family wanting me to return to church. I never did go back because of any of that. But that’s a long story, better told another time…
Let me also say I am glad you still seem open to talking with “believers.” I hope you and I can reach a point where you might consider that we’re all not a bunch of destructive jerks.
I think that religious ideas are destructive, but you are not these religious ideas. You are a human just like me. I care deeply about all humans and all other animals. Religious belief itself is the destructive jerk.
[quote author=“dweather”]Are you willing to share more with us on the forum about yourself? I for one would like to listen and learn from you.
I am very confused by these statements. Type erasmusinfinity into the search field up above and see for yourself.