erasmusinfinity - 02 November 2007 04:49 AM
FredFlash - 02 November 2007 04:10 AM
erasmusinfinity - 02 November 2007 12:51 AM
Yes Fred. It is bigoted and intolerant toward Americans who don’t trust a god that they don’t believe exists.
The issue is whether it violates the Constitution, and why.
Did slavery violate the constitution?
Nope. The Constitution grants the government no power over slavery.
Bigotry is wrongful however you slice it.
Again, the issue on the table is whether “In God We Trust” violated the Constitution, not whether it is bigotry.
You should be ashamed of yourself Freddy.
Huh?
[quote author=“FredFlash”]John 14:1 - “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God ...”
Romans 4:5 - “...the man who…trusts God…his faith is credited as righteousness.”
Romans 15:13 - May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him
Quoting bible verse as evidence of jehovah to someone who doesn’t believe there is a jehovah makes about as much sense as quoting Twas The Night before Christmas to someone who doesn’t believe there is a Santa Claus. You may as well be stating “it is so because I said so.”
I didn’t quote those verses to prove the existence of Jehovah, dude. I quoted them as evidence that the question - of whether we (who believe in the existence of a Creator) have a duty to trust in God - is a matter of religion. Remember, dude, or be informed for the first time that, “religion” is “the duty we owe to our Creator.”
[quote author=“FredFlash”]My main objection is that it trespasses upon the prerogatives of Jehovah.
Remember Freddy, you are talking to people, mostly, who don’t believe there is any sort of jehovah.
I see. So, I should conform my speech to your religious views? I don’t think so, dude.
Frankly, I am sick of hearing the hate filled privilege to which you feel so entitled.
What is so hateful about the people’s privilege (as you put it; or as I would say, the inalienable “right” ) to no civil authority over their religion(s)?
You have effectively convinced me, through this forum, that your cult is not only based on ridiculous and fantastical false beliefs but is also an utterly immoral. Your views don’t sound all that different from Osama Bin Laden’s to me.
You and Osama are the ones demanding that others conform their words to your religious opinions, dude. Not me!