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Posted: 14 February 2008 06:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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a)The Jungian Theory of Syncronicity, is a clear demonstration that everything in this Universe is predeterminated.The Heisenberg’s Indetermination Principle comes from the human ignorance (we cannot see the reality in its totality)...so only an ignorant,can believe in Free Will.

b)Matter is a complex form of energy; Energy is a complex form of Information; Information…is God’s Thought. The Universe is God…so we are parts of God.

c) Every kind of “human desire”,is followed by a Chain of “Electron wave functions collapses” (in agreement with Schrödinger’s Theory) which will not follow ours expectations! ...So the paradox is: if we want to get hold of something,we shouldn’t have to search for it. (Men stay still,and the mountains move…).
A curiosity: The connection between the electron wave-function and the human intent has to do with the fact that experiments have proved that the intentions of the operator of a radio transmission facility, directly and instrumentably alter the “footprint”, the radiation pattern of the antenna. It has also been shown that the intent of the human being causes a divergence in the quantum field (which is the information field). Any divergence in the information field results in alterations of “probability”, which directly influences the outcome of any system which contains any element of chance, directly influencing the resulting observable events. (See the work of Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research at http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/).

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“In agreement with Henri Bergson’s thought (see the last pages of “Entre le temps et l’éternité” of Ilya Prigogine ,Librairie Arthème Fayard,Paris), we can accept the idea of a “Space-time absolute value”, where all the “Space-time relativ values” are incorporated (in agreement with Einstein’s theory of relativity); the conclusion is that there is only one Real Matrix of the Universe…so every other possible /potential parallel “event/dimension/future” it’s only a human illusion. All the other parallel Universes (or Multi-Universes,as Phd. Everett said) can only exist in our minds…perhaps whilst dreaming. Unfortunately several physicists are conditioned by Heisenberg’s Principle of Indetermination…which, as you will know, is enough explain the existence of Free Will. Well, the Principle of Indetermination is hardly bound by the limits of observations made by the human brain. (We cannot see the reality in its totality…Bohm taught). If we accept the idea that our Universe really is God,well,in a infinite Caos of Energy too, there must to be a logical (but not for human brain),exact,specific,and perfectly organized ...Plan. How many significant (important) coincidences can happen to a person in his life,living in a unorganizated and stupid Universe?...I think no-one. Every synchronism in our life, is like an open-eyes-dream (Jung taught)...and we can thank the fine intelligence of our Universe…if they happen.”

Comparative discussion:
http://www.sciencechatforum.com/bulletin/viewtopic.php?t=4732&sid=8ffcca4b0f3e4a6d10a037b6c1119007

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Posted: 14 February 2008 06:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Crackpot Index score = 117*

*131 if you count misspelled and misused words.

[ Edited: 14 February 2008 06:20 AM by DarronS ]
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Posted: 14 February 2008 04:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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-1) Jung has been pretty widely debunked.  Most of his proposed theories have been shown to be unfounded.

a-2) No, the Heisenberg Principle has nothing to do with humans or sentient beings.  It’s just a part of the submicroscopic intdeterminacy of the universe.  However, it has nothing to do with the macroscopic world (it probably affects 1 in 10 to the minus forty decisions). 

a-3) Although, by the law of cause and effect (unprovable, but no instance of it not working has ever been found) everything is determined, we must recognize that the causes are so complex, interwoven and hidden that we have to operate in society as if there were free will.

b-1) “Matter is a complex form of energy”  -  They are both the same at a submicroscopic level, but one can’t claim one is “a complex form of” the other.

b-2)  “Energy is a complex form of Information”  -  Totally unjustified premise.

b-3)  “Information…is God’s Thought.”  -  Now that’s just plain silly - beyond unjustified.

b-4)  “The Universe is God”  -  And this statement is beyond even silly. 

b-5)  “so we are parts of God.”  False premises usually do as this had done; lead to false conclusions.

c & notes)  I see these as meaningless babbles that just don’t connect the words beyond their physical place it the sentences.

Fotobits’ evaluation, though more succinct than mine is completely accurate.

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Posted: 21 February 2008 11:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Occam - 14 February 2008 04:47 PM

-1) Jung has been pretty widely debunked.  Most of his proposed theories have been shown to be unfounded.

Well, actually, no.  What’s been debunked are common (and often gross) misunderstandings of Jung’s ideas.  I have yet to read a skeptical thread about Jung’s ideas that didn’t so badly mis-state said ideas as to make any associated criticism meaningless.  For instance, the basic definition of synchronicity given in a post above diverges quite a bit from how Jungians use the term.

Criticism of an idea only has meaning if the idea is properly understood in the first place.

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Posted: 27 February 2008 03:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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Ranillon - 21 February 2008 11:25 AM
Occam - 14 February 2008 04:47 PM

-1) Jung has been pretty widely debunked.  Most of his proposed theories have been shown to be unfounded.

Well, actually, no.  What’s been debunked are common (and often gross) misunderstandings of Jung’s ideas.  I have yet to read a skeptical thread about Jung’s ideas that didn’t so badly mis-state said ideas as to make any associated criticism meaningless.  For instance, the basic definition of synchronicity given in a post above diverges quite a bit from how Jungians use the term.

Criticism of an idea only has meaning if the idea is properly understood in the first place.

I fully agree. Jung’s ideas of synchronicity are deep insights of reality which cannot be dismissed so easily.

http://www.crystalinks.com/synchronicity.html

Synchronicity is a word coined by the Swiss psychologist Carl Jung to describe the temporally coincident occurrences of acausal events. It was a principle that he felt compassed his concept of the collective unconscious, in that it was descriptive of a governing dynamic that underlay the whole of human experience and history, social, emotional, psychological, and spiritual. Jung believed that many experiences perceived as coincidence were due not merely to chance, but instead potentially reflected the manifestation of coincident events or circumstances consequent to this governing dynamic. Jung spoke of synchronicity as being an “acausal connecting principle” (ie. a pattern of connection that is not explained by causality).

Jung believed the traditional notions of causality were incapable of explaining some of the more improbable forms of coincidence. Where it is plain, felt Jung, that no causal connection can be demonstrated between two events, but where a meaningful relationship nevertheless exists between them, a wholly different type of principle is likely to be operating. Jung called this principle “synchronicity.”

Physics has demonstrated that in the realm of atomic magnitudes objective reality presupposes an observer, and that only on this condition is a satisfactory scheme of explanation possible. This means, that a subjective element attaches to the physicist’s world picture, and secondly that a connection necessarily exists between the psyche to be explained and the objective space-time continuum. These discoveries not only help loosen physics from the iron grip of its materialistic world, but confirmed what I recognized intuitively that matter and consciousness, far from operating independently of each other are, in fact, interconnected in an essential way, functioning as complementary aspects of a unified reality.

On matter, energy and information, consider:

http://sufizmveinsan.com/fizik/holographic.html

Ask anybody what the physical world is made of, and you are likely to be told “matter and energy.”
Yet if we have learned anything from engineering, biology and physics, information is just as crucial an ingredient. The robot at the automobile factory is supplied with metal and plastic but can make nothing useful without copious instructions telling it which part to weld to what and so on. A ribosome in a cell in your body is supplied with amino acid building blocks and is powered by energy released by the conversion of ATP to ADP, but it can synthesize no proteins without the information brought to it from the DNA in the cell’s nucleus. Likewise, a century of developments in physics has taught us that information is a crucial player in physical systems and processes. Indeed, a current trend, initiated by John A. Wheeler of Princeton University, is to regard the physical world as made of information, with energy and matter as incidentals.

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Posted: 27 February 2008 05:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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If 2 events are synchronous, and they are not causally related, then it is coincedence.

If they are causally related, then they can be directly, or caused by a common cause. In the first case we have a simple natural law, in the second case some other event is involved. These are meaningful cases, i.e. they show some connection between the events.

I suspect that the ‘synchronicity believers’ in fact belief the ‘common cause’ case. In that case the meaningful relation between two events, refers to a new natural law and a new entity, which both still might be unknown. Instead of investigating this, ‘synchronicity believers’ gaze at the wonder: there must be <a >. Which in fact makes it causal again, but with the commandment not to investigate.

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Posted: 27 February 2008 05:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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Jung’s ideas as a whole may or may not be bunk (I am inclined to take the former tack, having read some of his stuff), but “synchronicity” certainly is. This quote from the woo-woo site “crystalinks” evinces some of the worst sort of nonsense-thinking from the New Age community. Here is one of the “Examples of Synchronicity” they cite:

You have been feeling ill with no clear diagnosis. You meet someone who knows a doctor or healer with the answers. All physical problems stem from emotional issues. Your soul will point out the patterns and hopefully the solutions. When the person is ready to heal, the doctor will be there. That person will often show up by synchronicity. This all stems from various levels of depression and self-sabotage stemming from one’s DNA or life experiences that have worn them down. When you are confused and in emotional pain, you either have trouble manifesting synchronicities or they are major learning lessons.

“All physical problems stem from emotional issues”? No, they don’t. No evidence is provided for this absurd claim.

“When the person is ready to heal, the doctor will be there”? Once again, no evidence is provided, and none could be, since this claim is absurd on its face.

You finally end a bad relationship and immediately another partner comes into your life as if by synchronicity.

You drive to a place where parking is “next to impossible” and someone pulls out of a parking spot or it is waiting for you.

Does anyone even need to refute this sort of childish thinking? One thing is for sure, none of it has the slightest thing to do with quantum physics or “loosen[ing] physics from the iron grip of the materialistic world”. It has more to do with the author’s (and Jung’s) loose grip on reality.

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Posted: 27 February 2008 05:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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For more on this supposed link between matter and consciousness I’d recommend papers and books by the physicist Victor Stenger. E.g., this one on “Quantum Quackery”:

Quantum mechanics, the centerpiece of modern physics, is misinterpreted as implying that the human mind controls reality and that the universe is one connected whole that cannot be understood by the usual reduction to parts.

However, no compelling argument or evidence requires that quantum mechanics plays a central role in human consciousness or provides instantaneous, holistic connections across the universe. Modern physics, including quantum mechanics, remains completely materialistic and reductionistic while being consistent with all scientific observations.

The apparent holistic, nonlocal behavior of quantum phenomena, as exemplified by a particle’s appearing to be in two places at once, can be understood without discarding the commonsense notion of particles following definite paths in space and time or requiring that signals travel faster than the speed of light.

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