faithlessgod - 09 April 2008 11:14 AM

Daisy - 09 April 2008 10:33 AM

faithlessgod - 09 April 2008 12:09 AM

http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/03-12-19.html
http://impartialism.blogspot.com/2006/12/merry-newtonmass.html

Thank you so much, I read both of them and they both totally make sense to me.

Thanks, in reference to the second link which is.. ahem.. my blog - maintained sporadically at the moment as I my available online time is spent testing ideas out such as in this forum

I went back there (blog), great page, I went through some of the links, beautiful worlds, thank you.

Mriana - 09 April 2008 01:16 PM

You are very welcome, Daisy.  I’m glad they were very helpful to you.  *hug back*

they were more than ‘helpful’ Mriana, more like a treasures, that makes you a good hunter, treasure hunter, or hunter’ess ?

On incremental step in changing the public view on Christmas would be to propose a change in dating.

As small business owners know, it can be problematic to set one’s calendar around Christmas as the date changes every year. Why not change Christmas to every fourth Monday or Friday in December?  This way, a three-day weekend is guaranteed and deadline-oriented businesses can better plan how they deal with such an imposition.

To religionists, it can be noted that the current date for Christmas is rooted (as are most xmas traditions) in pagan ritual. Even Easter falls on a Sunday every year. Why not Christmas?

Also, by making a small change, we pave the way for making future changes and perhaps eventually phasing it out as a recognized federal holiday.

It’s probably too logical.

MountainHumanist - 14 April 2008 09:16 AM

Even Easter falls on a Sunday every year. Why not Christmas?

Easter celebration is based on a lunar calendar and Christmas on a solar one. You can’t start, stop or change a tradition over night. The Catholic Church, for example, has been trying to get rid of Halloween for almost two thousand years and I think they have finally given up.

Not suggesting an overnight change (never did).

Incremental is the key.

First, suggest it.

Next, round up support.

Next, deal with objections.

Next, influence policymaker, win over the public and “ta-da” a logical annual celebration.

Easter comparisons are useful to show that it is possible — it’s irrelevant which calendar each is based upon for the purpose of this objective.

I don’t want Christmas to be logical.

George - 14 April 2008 10:04 AM

I don’t want Christmas to be logical.

Your wants are not driving my proposal. Mine are. I work in a business where we have to jiggle our schedule every year thanks to Christmas. I want an immediate solution on my way to the ultimate solution (as previously stated) of no more sanctioned Christmas.

MountainHumanist - 14 April 2008 09:48 AM

Not suggesting an overnight change (never did).

Incremental is the key.

First, suggest it.

Next, round up support.

Next, deal with objections.

Next, influence policymaker, win over the public and “ta-da” a logical annual celebration.

Easter comparisons are useful to show that it is possible — it’s irrelevant which calendar each is based upon for the purpose of this objective.

How about starting with Easter. there are already two Catholic/Protestant and Greek Orthodox (maybe more for all I know)? How about revising this to a fixed Sunday in April? This would get over disruptions in school terms as they were affected specifically this year and so appeal to more people to want to resolve. After all if the Chinese can declare that the Dalai Llama can only be re-incarnated in China this can’t be that hard