Anti-atheist discrimination in the US military (merged)
Posted: 26 April 2008 06:56 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Check out the article from today’s NYTimes HERE (may require login):

Soldier Sues Army, Saying His Atheism Led to Threats

By NEELA BANERJEE
Published: April 26, 2008

FORT RILEY, Kan. — When Specialist Jeremy Hall held a meeting last July for atheists and freethinkers at Camp Speicher in Iraq, he was excited, he said, to see an officer attending.

But minutes into the talk, the officer, Maj. Freddy J. Welborn, began to berate Specialist Hall and another soldier about atheism, Specialist Hall wrote in a sworn statement. “People like you are not holding up the Constitution and are going against what the founding fathers, who were Christians, wanted for America!” Major Welborn said, according to the statement.

Major Welborn told the soldiers he might bar them from re-enlistment and bring charges against them, according to the statement. ...

It’s a sobering tale and worth a read.

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Posted: 26 April 2008 07:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Anyone catch the extensive NY Times article today about discrimination against atheists in the military?  I was just disgusted, but I suppose not surprised.  The level of ignorance about both the Constitution and our founding fathers is truly unbelievable!

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Posted: 26 April 2008 07:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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musicmommy - 26 April 2008 07:00 PM

Anyone catch the extensive NY Times article today about discrimination against atheists in the military?  I was just disgusted, but I suppose not surprised.  The level of ignorance about both the Constitution and our founding fathers is truly unbelievable!

Two articles 1st.AP
Fort Riley atheist soldier speaks out on lawsuit
and 2nd NY Times writier
Soldier Sues Army, Saying His Atheism Led to Threats

(or if these links don’t work go to nytimes.com and search on the word ‘atheist’  —these are 4/26/2008 stories.)

Thanks very much for bringing these up—I read them and then got distracted.
These stories are as bothersome (or more) as the “truly expelled” examples of academics being harassed for believing in evolution.

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Posted: 26 April 2008 07:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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dougsmith - 26 April 2008 06:56 AM

Check out the article from today’s NYTimes HERE (may require login):

Soldier Sues Army, Saying His Atheism Led to Threats

By NEELA BANERJEE
Published: April 26, 2008

FORT RILEY, Kan. — When Specialist Jeremy Hall held a meeting last July for atheists and freethinkers at Camp Speicher in Iraq, he was excited, he said, to see an officer attending.

But minutes into the talk, the officer, Maj. Freddy J. Welborn, began to berate Specialist Hall and another soldier about atheism, Specialist Hall wrote in a sworn statement. “People like you are not holding up the Constitution and are going against what the founding fathers, who were Christians, wanted for America!” Major Welborn said, according to the statement.

Major Welborn told the soldiers he might bar them from re-enlistment and bring charges against them, according to the statement. ...


oops Doug there was another post on the same topic—can you merge.  I agree the facts in this story are frightening.
It’s a sobering tale and worth a read.

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Posted: 21 May 2008 11:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I was in the air force for 4 years.  I wouldn’t call it discrimination, but if you tell someone you’re an atheist, a look of horror appears on their face.  But its the same look that I get everyday from people, so I didnt pay much attention to it.

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Posted: 29 May 2008 10:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Meant humorously, even as I abhor discrimination:

On NPR’s ‘On the Media’ (a very good show) they recently held a contest of a complete novel in 10 words or less. One of the winners:

“‘There are no atheists in foxholes’ said the chaplain. ‘So . . . get out.’”

Chris Kirk

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Posted: 29 May 2008 10:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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There were a couple of articles in The Humanist last year touching on this, here are the links to them in the archive:
http://www.thehumanist.org/humanist/Issue-Bardi.html
http://www.thehumanist.org/humanist/CarlosBertha.html
Unfortunately they hadn’t posted the article I really wanted to link to but I found it elsewhere anyway, about the experiences of a cadet in the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1374/is_5_67/ai_n21040015/pg_1

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