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What is your philosophy?
Posted: 21 February 2006 11:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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No because then it would be suicide if the “few” your talking is like an alcoholic saying they only had a few drinks.

OK, is it murder for you to prick your friend’s finger and kill a few cells? A single cell is not a human. Neither is a hundred, nor a thousand. A fly’s brain has something around 100,000 cells, and we have no problem killing flies ...

Yes. I am not saying gays are bad. I am saying ideas are like viruses some good, some bad. Think about it, it takes a man and woman to make a child, not a man and man, and not a woman and a woman. Humans are not immortal. ?Comprende?

Umm .... no comprendo. Does that mean that it’s a “bad” idea not to have children? What of childless (heterosexual) couples? Do they have “bad” ideas? What about single people? What about homosexual couples that do have children? After all, they are just as fertile as heterosexuals are, and some choose to reproduce.

To go further with this ... the big problem humans have on this planet is overpopulation. I can’t see any way to make sense of the claim that we need to increase our numbers. If there were only seven of us left, then maybe you’d say fertility was a virtue. But with seven-odd billion? Nope.

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Posted: 22 February 2006 01:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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homosexuality "decision"

To theatheistheretic:

Thank you for addressing this topic. 

You wrote, in partial response to my question about when and how you decided to be straight, could it have in High School?: <Couldn’t of been after. If gayism is aloud to spread to much it could possibly cause the extinction of are species.>

So 2 things for you:
1. I understand from your response that you made your decision to be straight in High School.  Was it a conscious decision?  Did you ponder the question - straight? gay?, straight? gay?  How did you make that decision?
2. You seem concerned that “gayism” will spread.  How would it spread?  Is it a disease?  How does it spread, what vector?  Is the CDC working to stop the spread?  Also, have you evidence that “gayism” has reduced the birthrate?  Do you have any data to support your concern?

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Posted: 16 March 2006 01:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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I would rather kill myself then be gay, but then again I am only a sophmore in HS, so maybe things will change. A note on overpopulation: there is more than enough food in this world, but war cause some people to starve.

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Posted: 17 March 2006 03:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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I would rather kill myself then be gay

I’m laying aside my annoyance with a statement like this in order to learn from it.  I think it’s a popular thing to say—heard it many times from younger kids.  I’m interested in the psychology behind it.  So, what is it about homosexuality that is so repugnant to you that you’d rather die than “be one of them?”  Please be specific.

And as a general comment to you, theatheistheretic, it seems like you work a lot off anger and revenge.  Do you think that’s an effective mode of action?

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Posted: 19 March 2006 08:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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[quote author=“theatheistheretic”]I would rather kill myself then be gay, but then again I am only a sophmore in HS, so maybe things will change. A note on overpopulation: there is more than enough food in this world, but war cause some people to starve.

Now I understand. You are only a sophmore in high school. Sorry for my lack of patience with your other posts.

You need to realize that in your current state, you are against what the Center for Inquiry, as I understand it, stands for. You are very opinionated, yet these opinions lack supporting data.

Regarding homosexuality: the Feb/march 2006 issue of Scientific American Mind had an interesting article. Most of us know that homosexuality has been linked to a particular gene. The article claims that “Sexual orientation exists on a continuum, with genes and environment determining where people end up.”

You might be at one end of the continuum—the exclusive opposite-sex attraction end. You would be unable to understand why anyone would end up a homosexual. Another person might be at the opposite end, genetically having only the possibility of exclusive same-sex attraction. Many people are also in the regions between the extremes, genetically having the possibility of attraction to either same or opposite sex, though perhaps leaning more to the left or right. Environment also impacts the people who are not genentically at the farthest points, on average moving them toward the heterosexual end of the continuum.

The point is, there are people who genetically do not have the ability to be attracted to members of the opposite sex.

Regarding population: was it Malthus who said that population always pushes past a sustainable level? Have you been to any 3rd world countries and seen the effects of overpopulation? After spending 10 years in the Philippines, I feel safe in saying human reproduction is not a problem. Our species will continue to grow in number, even more than is beneficial. Apparently you are unaware of the problems with social security after the population growth in the baby boom generation.

Regarding abortion: this is a much more controversial topic, in my view. I do not have a stand on this issue.

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Posted: 21 March 2006 09:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Re: What is your philosophy?

Hmmm, interesting post.  Let me try wink

respect knowledge ——  respect people,  learn knowledge  
Golden Rule   ———    silver rule,  he with the silver makes the rules,
try your best——-    Try and have fun doing it.
God does not exist! ———-  Who cares if God exists.
Have some sense of honor ——— Have honor ,  but watch your back.
Abortion is wrong   ———- Abortion is a medical procedure.  Use a condom and don’t have to worry about it.
Gayism is wrong   ——  Gayism is .  Bi ism is.  Just have fun.
Theism is wrong ——— Who cares.
Soccer is a good sport   Soccer is a sport its just the fans that are bad.
American Football is a bad sport —— Football is good, its just some of the players that suck. grin

Feel free to tell me your philosophy. —— see above.

Elder Norm   grin

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Posted: 24 March 2006 03:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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lotus and dmoreau
Being oppinionated is a form of free thought. If you don’t have oppinions, you don’t have free thought. ?comprende en espanol?
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Did you paste directly from one my earlier post? I’ve never noticed the fans in soccer.  The only time I notice them is after the game when they tell me good job! I play center defence and usually my goalie never touches the ball.

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Posted: 24 March 2006 04:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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[quote author=“theatheistheretic”]lotus and dmoreau
Being oppinionated is a form of free thought. If you don’t have oppinions, you don’t have free thought. ?comprende en espanol?
Eldernorm
Did you paste directly from one my earlier post? I’ve never noticed the fans in soccer.  The only time I notice them is after the game when they tell me good job! I play center defence and usually my goalie never touches the ball.

How you arrive at your opinions, in my view, says whether you are a threethinker, not just having them.

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Posted: 24 March 2006 08:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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[quote author=“theatheistheretic”]
Eldernorm,  Did you paste directly from one my earlier post? I’ve never noticed the fans in soccer.  The only time I notice them is after the game when they tell me good job! I play center defence and usually my goalie never touches the ball.

Hello,  The only time you have to worry about the fans is when they are really pissed or really happy.  Then they knock down the walls around the field and chase you all over the place. lol grin

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Posted: 07 April 2006 07:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Recreational games are bad for referees. I ref both competitive and recreational youth soccer and recreational fans are by far the worst.  I play, coach, ref, eat, and drink soccer.  Last two figuritively not literally, of coarse.

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Posted: 04 July 2006 10:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Wait, you stopped responding to the gay thing.

My roommate’s gay. I’m not (I’m actually engaged, and my fiancee isn’t totally straight).

He knew he was gay when he hit puberty, because, you know… he was attracted to other men. To his credit (in some opinion), he tried sleeping with girls, and he hated it. It left him feeling unfulfilled.

Homosexuality isn’t a meme. It’s a fact of life. Observe nearly any species of mammal. Of great interest are our close cousin, the bonobo chimp. “sexuality” is about as loosely defined there as the house I live with my roommates in.

It’s more than war that kills people, as dmoreau says. Overpopulation kills. In order to support huge populations, we would have to devistate large amounts of wilderness, which we need to sustain the ecology (barring developement of the SF hyrdoponic. I hope you like soy).

And there’s more to abortion than the fetus. There’s the mother, father, and environment into which the fetus is born.

My philosophy:

Ever human being is born with equal dignity.
Treat people neutrally until they give you reason to do otherwise.
Be peaceful until that doesn’t work anymore.
Knowlege belongs to the people.
No one has the right to exploit others for any reason.
In a given situation, if all parties are consenting and no flipper babies result from it, then there is nothing immoral about the situation.

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Posted: 08 July 2006 03:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Relativism - I believe the borderlines on relativism is biological so we should definatly intervene in things such as killing, torture, even circumcision to those who don’t want it, or not allowed s choice in the first place.  People should not press their way of living on others. So otherwords people should not neccesarily nay say others, but maybe try to lead by example, and if the others like that way, they can always come to join ( hopefully! )

Humanism- People are generally good, we just have 6 billion different viewpoints that sometimes conflict due to ignorance and feelings. But we do try to justify whatever we do. In the end we just try to make ourselves happy/tranquil!

Individualism - Be an individual before anything else. The individuals that wore the nazi and red army uniforms killing their own country men are just as bad.

Scepticism - Keep an open mind but don’t let it fall out. Show me the money! Weak atheist point of view where i think its logical that some gods could logical exist but I won’t bother belieing in them till there is substantial evidence.

Socialism - I’m ambevelent to whether communism is possible so taking a step back is the natural thing to do i guess, baby steps. With communism my conundrum is what formula do we use to keep it sustainable? How do we distribute goods and not have that distribution core dictate? Once they have that power they are automatically the goverment, and have all the power, and absolute power is absolute corruption. I think its a great idea but I’m sceptical of it thus far…

Existentialism - Although their radical notion of freewill they normally cling to stumps me.  The more i read about freewill the more I don’t understand really. Ill find the thread and try to revise and update my viewpoint on freewill/determinism! smile

Thats all I can think of.
Any constructive criticism? :D

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Posted: 10 July 2006 04:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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[quote author=“theatheistheretic”]If gayism is aloud to spread to much it could possibly cause the extinction of are species.

Let me see….  The current population of the Earth is 6.5 Billion.  It doubles about every fifty years.  The population of homosexuals is something less than 10% of the whole.  Hmmm….

You’re Right!  You’re Absolutely Right!  They’re going to Drive us to Extinction!  Panic!  YAHHHHH!!!!

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Posted: 27 October 2006 05:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Practice thinking like a bisexual.Why not sex with both sexes? It is hard to fellate oneself but easy to do another of the same sex to get a feel for what it would be like to do one self. It is just a personal barrier to overcome! Why shouldn’t one appreciate that someone of ones own sex finds one attractive?  :idea:  :wink:

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Posted: 27 October 2006 02:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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This is the first time I’ve visited this thread, and all I can say to theatheistheretic’s opinion on homosexuality is :shock:.

In The God Delusion (I promise to stop referring to Dawkins’s book once I run out of things to refer to :wink:) Dawkins talks about Zeitgeist (spirit of the time): “In any given society there exists a somewhat mysterious consensus, which changes over the decades,...”. In this chapter (The Moral Zeitgeist) he talks about slavery, racism, persecution of homosexuals, being accepted at one time and then slowly rejected in the future. This made me wonder! Where else can we improve? I understand our world is far from being perfect, but when I read that women in Switzerland were not allowed to vote until 1971 I actually felt relieved to live in our present time. But then I thought: what else? At what will our great-grandchildren shake their heads and think to themselves: “unbelievable :shock:”. I know there are children dying of hunger, innocent people being killed, women being raped every day, but I am not sure how soon these unfortunate occurrences will disappear…if ever! So what else? Where can we improve? One thing I am inclined to see as “wrong” by our great-grandchildren is the killing of animals* and eating their meat; I believe hunting, not so much fishing :x, for “sport” is already becoming unacceptable.

Do you disagree? What else does humanity need to change?

*“The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men.”
(Leonardo da Vinci)

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