Thank you for taking the time to review that podcast again. I don’t think you listened to it in a generous mood. I’ll explain…
“...not against God-belief”, “...“I don’t care what goes in your heads…and you really get down to it, there are really no good reasons to be absolutely confident that any particular God is real…”
(1:51) DJ Grothe: Guy, I loved this book 50 Reasons People Give For Believing in a God. It’s different than a lot of these other books out there criticizing god-belief. You’re actually just listening to people about why they say they believe in God. Tell me why you explored the question of belief in this way rather than just writing a screed against god-belief.
Guy Harrison: Yeah well there’s two reasons really. One it’s not my personality to just want to beat somebody over the head with my personal perspective on the world or the Universe. So I thought “you know, this is something the world needs.” I mean that might sound a little arrogant but I really thought there was a need for a book that just bent over backwards to be polite and respectful to believers and say “you know, hey, I don’t really care what you believe. I don’t care what goes on in your head. But, you know, please let’s just stop, pause and think a little more about this claim that all these different gods are real.” Okay? Because if you think about it… and you really get down to it, there are no good reasons to be absolutely confident that any particular god is real.
DJG: Well Guy, that claim that you just made seems like you’re trying to argue people out of their belief.
GH: No I’m not. I’m really not. If something about their religious belief is so important to them they need to keep it, that is absolutely cool. That’s fine. No problem. ...
—-First claims to be not against God-belief, then proceeds to point out that there is no way there is a God, of course, DJ points this out…well done
No, he does not point out that there is no way there is a God. He says “there are no good reasons to be absolutely confident that any particular god is real.” It take a complete lack of generosity to hear it as you did. It is the confidence being described, not God. You’ve mischaracterized DJ’s objection as well.
—-Says that he doesn’t care about what goes on in “their” heads…why bother writing about people if you are not going to bother to understand them? He made it sound like he cataloged people’s believes without attempting to understand where they were coming from
I agree he could have been clearer. But you could have taken this much more generously. Given the entire context he seems to be saying no matter what is going on in your head, look around more widely and don’t ignore the contradictions out there. Keep your beliefs but don’t hold them so confidently that you become arrogant - as that leads to problems…
—-Claims there are no good “reasons” to believe in God…that may be so, but shouldn’t he give his reasons first, then the conclusion? also calling someone stupid is a bad way to establish rapport
He’s not “trying to argue people out of their belief” as DJG challenged and GH goes on to explain. And GH doesn’t call anyone stupid. Your charge is unfair.
more to come…