3 of 7
3
The murder of Dr. George Tiller
Posted: 25 June 2009 01:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  7661
Joined  2008-04-11

(GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24) God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to do something about it. He kills every living thing on the face of the earth other than Noah’s family and thereby makes himself the greatest mass murderer in history.

(EX 12:29) The Lord kills all the first-born in the land of Egypt

(LE 26:22) “I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children.”

(NU 31:17-18) Moses, following the Lord’s command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and “... every woman who has known man ....” (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)

(2KI 6:29) “So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, ‘Give up your son so we may eat him,’ but she had hidden him.”

(PS 137:9) Happy will be the man who dashes your little ones against the stones.

(IS 13:15) “Everyone who is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished.”

(IS 13:18) “Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children.”

(IS 14:21-22) “Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers.”

(HO 13:16) “They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”

A very small taste of the morality exhibited in your book of myths….. hmmm

 Signature 

Church; where sheep congregate to worship a zombie on a stick that turns into a cracker on Sundays…

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 01:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  7661
Joined  2008-04-11
Carico - 25 June 2009 05:58 AM

I find it so interesting that pro-abortionists focus on Dr. Tiller who killed one person and neglect the over 50,000,000 babies that have been killed.  gulp That’s because the single biggest rationale in the world for mass murder is to claim that the victims being murdered are either non-humans or sub humans like the Nazi’s did with the Jews. Then it’s as easy to kill people as killing a gnat.

‘Grammar Check’ is another friend I introduced to you earlier. Your post makes absolutely NO sense.
I would also like to introduce you to a NEW friend named ‘Proof Reader’.
If you use a proof reader (if you are not able to do it yourself), you can be sure your message stated is the actual message you want to get across. grin

 Signature 

Church; where sheep congregate to worship a zombie on a stick that turns into a cracker on Sundays…

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 01:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
Jr. Member
RankRank
Total Posts:  31
Joined  2009-06-24
asanta - 25 June 2009 01:04 PM

(GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24) God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to do something about it. He kills every living thing on the face of the earth other than Noah’s family and thereby makes himself the greatest mass murderer in history.

(EX 12:29) The Lord kills all the first-born in the land of Egypt

(LE 26:22) “I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children.”

(NU 31:17-18) Moses, following the Lord’s command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and “... every woman who has known man ....” (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)

(2KI 6:29) “So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, ‘Give up your son so we may eat him,’ but she had hidden him.”

(PS 137:9) Happy will be the man who dashes your little ones against the stones.

(IS 13:15) “Everyone who is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished.”

(IS 13:18) “Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children.”

(IS 14:21-22) “Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers.”

(HO 13:16) “They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”

A very small taste of the morality exhibited in your book of myths….. hmmm

Sorry, but God will not be mocked. He will not allow His creation to defile Him, ignore Him, deny Him, curse Him, abuse His design for the sexual union between a man and woman, lust after whatever arouses him, take money that could be given to the poor, eat food that could be given to the hungry, lie, steal cheat, and curse his brother, traffick human beings, murder babies, forever. If he did, he would be a wimp and not to be respected and thus have no authority over mankind. But He does have authority. Sorry.  wink

But God also offers a free pardon to all of humanity and all anyone has to do is say “yes.”  That’s more than any earthly judge would do.  But if that’s too hard, and you say no, then you get what you deserve.  wink

So sorry, but since God created the universe and has made it plain as day what His laws are and the penalty for breaking them, then you are jumping into the fire with your eyes wide open.  wink So you have no excuse for your ignorance. because God runs the universe, not the debauched mind man. Even animals know not to bite the hadn that feeds them.  wink But again, the next best thing to repentance is justice! And you’ll receive that on judgment day.  wink

[ Edited: 25 June 2009 01:18 PM by Carico ]
Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 01:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
Administrator
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  15343
Joined  2006-02-14
Carico - 25 June 2009 01:16 PM

Sorry, but God will not be mocked. He will not allow His creation to defile Him, ignore Him, deny Him, curse Him, abuse His design for the sexual union between a man and woman, lust after whatever arouses him, take money that could be given to the poor, eat food that could be given to the hungry, lie, steal cheat, and curse his brother, traffick human beings, murder babies, forever. If he did, he would be a wimp and not to be respected and thus have no authority over mankind. But He does have authority. Sorry.  wink

But God also offers a free pardon to all of humanity and all anyone has to do is say “yes.”  That’s more than any earthly judge would do.  But if that’s too hard, and you say no, then you get what you deserve.  wink

So sorry, but since God has made it plan as day what His laws are and the penalty for breaking them, then you are jumping into the fire with your eyes wide open.  wink So you have no excuse for your ignorance. because God runs the universe, not the debauched mind man. Even animals know not to bite the hadn that feeds them.  wink But again, the next best thing to repentance is justice! And you’ll receive that on judgment day.  wink

So, you feel you can speak for God?

 Signature 

Doug

-:- -:—:- -:—:- -:—:- -:—:- -:—:-

El sueño de la razón produce monstruos

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 01:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
Jr. Member
RankRank
Total Posts:  31
Joined  2009-06-24
dougsmith - 25 June 2009 01:18 PM
Carico - 25 June 2009 01:16 PM

Sorry, but God will not be mocked. He will not allow His creation to defile Him, ignore Him, deny Him, curse Him, abuse His design for the sexual union between a man and woman, lust after whatever arouses him, take money that could be given to the poor, eat food that could be given to the hungry, lie, steal cheat, and curse his brother, traffick human beings, murder babies, forever. If he did, he would be a wimp and not to be respected and thus have no authority over mankind. But He does have authority. Sorry.  wink

But God also offers a free pardon to all of humanity and all anyone has to do is say “yes.”  That’s more than any earthly judge would do.  But if that’s too hard, and you say no, then you get what you deserve.  wink

So sorry, but since God has made it plan as day what His laws are and the penalty for breaking them, then you are jumping into the fire with your eyes wide open.  wink So you have no excuse for your ignorance. because God runs the universe, not the debauched mind man. Even animals know not to bite the hadn that feeds them.  wink But again, the next best thing to repentance is justice! And you’ll receive that on judgment day.  wink

So, you feel you can speak for God?

Yup. 2 Corinthians 5:20, “We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors as though God were making His appeal through us.” Is there anything else? blank stare

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 01:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
Administrator
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  15343
Joined  2006-02-14
Carico - 25 June 2009 01:19 PM

Yup. 2 Corinthians 5:20, “We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors as though God were making His appeal through us.” Is there anything else? blank stare

Yeah, all those other quotes from the Bible that you ignored.

 Signature 

Doug

-:- -:—:- -:—:- -:—:- -:—:- -:—:-

El sueño de la razón produce monstruos

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 01:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
Sr. Member
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  5941
Joined  2006-12-20
asanta - 25 June 2009 01:09 PM
Carico - 25 June 2009 05:58 AM

I find it so interesting that pro-abortionists focus on Dr. Tiller who killed one person and neglect the over 50,000,000 babies that have been killed.  gulp That’s because the single biggest rationale in the world for mass murder is to claim that the victims being murdered are either non-humans or sub humans like the Nazi’s did with the Jews. Then it’s as easy to kill people as killing a gnat.

‘Grammar Check’ is another friend I introduced to you earlier. Your post makes absolutely NO sense.
I would also like to introduce you to a NEW friend named ‘Proof Reader’.
If you use a proof reader (if you are not able to do it yourself), you can be sure your message stated is the actual message you want to get across. grin

The point Carico is putting across is clear.

Let’s attack the argument, not grammer or the ability to proof read unless absolutely necessary.

Stephen

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 02:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
Moderator
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  7540
Joined  2007-03-02
Carico - 25 June 2009 01:16 PM

Sorry, but God will not be mocked. He will not allow His creation to defile Him, ignore Him, deny Him, curse Him, abuse His design for the sexual union between a man and woman, lust after whatever arouses him, take money that could be given to the poor, eat food that could be given to the hungry, lie, steal cheat, and curse his brother, traffick human beings, murder babies, forever. If he did, he would be a wimp and not to be respected and thus have no authority over mankind. But He does have authority. Sorry.  wink

But God also offers a free pardon to all of humanity and all anyone has to do is say “yes.”  That’s more than any earthly judge would do.  But if that’s too hard, and you say no, then you get what you deserve.  wink

So sorry, but since God created the universe and has made it plain as day what His laws are and the penalty for breaking them, then you are jumping into the fire with your eyes wide open.  wink So you have no excuse for your ignorance. because God runs the universe, not the debauched mind man. Even animals know not to bite the hadn that feeds them.  wink But again, the next best thing to repentance is justice! And you’ll receive that on judgment day.  wink

Someone quotes the truth of what the Bible does say and you accuse them of mocking God?  Well good, here’s more for you to accuse of mocking:

What does the Bible say about abortion

It was what asanta said and more.

And yet another that says about the same thing:  http://www.ffrf.org/nontracts/abortion.php

You book basically doesn’t have a problem with abortion at all, esp and including if the man thinks his wife cheated on him and the baby is not his.

 Signature 

Mriana
“Sometimes in order to see the light, you have to risk the dark.” ~ Iris Hineman (Lois Smith) The Minority Report

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 03:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
Moderator
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  5508
Joined  2006-10-22

Carico, using your own reasoning that even a zygote is alive so should not be killed, then it’s also apparent that each spermatozoa and ovum is alive (dead ones couldn’t combine to make a zygote).  Therefore, it must be sinful for anyone not only to use contraceptives, but also to avoid giving each sperm and ovum the right to continue life.  All males and females must copulate as often as possible.  Masturbation and celibacy are sins as are any activities that allow the sperm to avoid fertilizing the ova, or the ova being fertilized by sperm.  And so is a vasectomy.

So, unless you spent most of your adult life copulating with women during their fertile periods and avoided ever masturbating or having oral sex or using any contraceptive methods, you are guilty of major sins and will be thrown into the pit on Judgement day.

Occam

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 04:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  7661
Joined  2008-04-11
Occam - 25 June 2009 03:58 PM

Carico, using your own reasoning that even a zygote is alive so should not be killed, then it’s also apparent that each spermatozoa and ovum is alive (dead ones couldn’t combine to make a zygote).  Therefore, it must be sinful for anyone not only to use contraceptives, but also to avoid giving each sperm and ovum the right to continue life.  All males and females must copulate as often as possible.  Masturbation and celibacy are sins as are any activities that allow the sperm to avoid fertilizing the ova, or the ova being fertilized by sperm.  And so is a vasectomy.

So, unless you spent most of your adult life copulating with women during their fertile periods and avoided ever masturbating or having oral sex or using any contraceptive methods, you are guilty of major sins and will be thrown into the pit on Judgement day.

Occam

...and when a woman miscarries, is ‘god’ guilty of murder??

 Signature 

Church; where sheep congregate to worship a zombie on a stick that turns into a cracker on Sundays…

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 04:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
Moderator
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  7540
Joined  2007-03-02

I that scenario and crazy dogma?  I’d hold God accountable, because that is how it is with such dogmatic ideology.  LOL

 Signature 

Mriana
“Sometimes in order to see the light, you have to risk the dark.” ~ Iris Hineman (Lois Smith) The Minority Report

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 05:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  4416
Joined  2008-08-14

Abortion will always be legal Carico, and all the praying in the world won’t make it illegal. I hope you are trying to adopt as many of these unwanted children as you can- encourage others to do the same, that might cut down on abortion.

 Signature 

Row row row your boat gently down the stream.  Merrily Merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream!

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 06:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
Sr. Member
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  324
Joined  2009-04-23
VYAZMA - 25 June 2009 05:51 PM

Abortion will always be legal Carico, and all the praying in the world won’t make it illegal. I hope you are trying to adopt as many of these unwanted children as you can- encourage others to do the same, that might cut down on abortion.

Not only is abortion legal, it is MEDICALLY NECESSARY in many cases.  Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions in order to SAVE THE LIVES OF MANY WOMEN!  He was a wonderful, brave physician who did his job even though he was constantly threatened and harassed.  We are lucky that there was a Dr. Tiller and hopefully his death will not prevent doctors from saving women’s lives in the future in this field.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 06:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  4416
Joined  2008-08-14

That’s wonderful input Chicken. Even though it is completely true, and relevant to this argument, I like to promote abortion simply for the convenient birth control.
People are out there breeding like guinea pigs, there are tons of unwanted pregnancies. We can’t afford to have all this extra-unwanted offspring floating around, clogging up the infrastructure, sucking up valuable resources. Seeing as how most people are too lazy and or passionate to use pre-fertilization control, the only way to staunch the problem is abortion. We need more morning after pills, and I firmly believe we need birth control on a proactive level, just like China. Introduce it to males and/or females, we don’t want to discriminate.
By citing the need to abort fetuses for strictly important emergencies, it sometimes seems apologetic, or begging the reason. Screw them, science wins, and we need to reduce population.
These momos running around crying about unborn kids and crap-who cares? You never see these idiots wailing about the bombed out living kids in war zones. The vast majority of them are old, bitter, and frumpy. They can’t stand that men and woman can exercise their sexual freedom, and then terminate any unwanted side-effects. THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!!! THEY CAN’T STAND THE FACT THAT WOMEN(MAINLY) ARE ABLE TO DETERMINE THE DIRECTION OF THEIR OWN SEXUAL DESIRES.
The rest are lost bozos who need to clutch to religion out of fear, and a sense to belong with other fearful people, and what better rally cry than to denounce the so called killing of babies. Has a great, purposeful, crusade-ish kind of fervor.

 Signature 

Row row row your boat gently down the stream.  Merrily Merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream!

Profile
 
 
Posted: 25 June 2009 07:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  7661
Joined  2008-04-11
VYAZMA - 25 June 2009 05:51 PM

Abortion will always be legal Carico, and all the praying in the world won’t make it illegal. I hope you are trying to adopt as many of these unwanted children as you can- encourage others to do the same, that might cut down on abortion.

Adequate sex education and access to contraceptives would put a big dent in abortions as well. Unless we are willing to sacrifice the women—the wives and mothers of the children, abortions will NEVER be illegal.

 Signature 

Church; where sheep congregate to worship a zombie on a stick that turns into a cracker on Sundays…

Profile
 
 
   
3 of 7
3