The ACLU is trying to do something to reestablish the
forgotten American values against:

"Torture.  Government kidnapping.  Indefinite detention"

They are asking for people to register for the petition here:
http://action.aclu.org/site/PageServer?pagename=TIU_TortureisUnAmerican

- steve s.

ACLU web petition: TORTURE IS UN-AMERICAN

The ACLU is trying to do something to reestablish the
forgotten American values against:

“Torture.  Government kidnapping.  Indefinite detention”

They are asking for people to register for the petition here:
http://action.aclu.org/site/PageServer?pagename=TIU_TortureisUnAmerican

- steve s.

Excellent! Thanks Steve.

[quote author=“dougsmith”]Excellent! Thanks Steve.

Your very welcome dougsmith, and I’ve enjoy many of your
posted messages.  Be well.

- steve s.

I applaud you on doing this.

[quote author=“jump_in_the_pit”]I think it’s important to say something supportive of the
troops if you want to avoid the warmongers’ verbal venom,
when criticizing _Bush’s_ _policies_.

Yes, I think that’s exactly the right way to do it, and IMO it’s how we’ve progressed from the knee-jerk rhetoric of the late 60s and early 70s. Many of the troops are not supporters of the war, many are Democrats, many are very brave and decent people who do not support the sort of criminal activity that this government has pushed some to do.

So yes, put the blame where it belongs: at the top.

The forum that I had mentioned came back, I don’t know
were it went while it was gone.

Titled: ACLU web petition: torture is unAmerican
http://www.punkrocknight.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2510

Expect those type of comments when you say something
bad about torture.  As Lauren makes the point on Point
of Inquiry by asking when did anyone imagined that we
would have to defend reality culture, I ask when did it
get controversial to say something bad about torture?
Isn’t that one of the reasons that Saddam was considered
bad?  Have the warmongers changed their minds about Saddam?
I’m sorry but a discussion about which ways we can beat
the truth out of someone has never been valid.  The only
people who are unclear about the definition of torture
are those who want to get away with “water boarding” and
other tortures.  You can support the troops by supporting
the fight against torture, Saddam’s actions, and the bad
guy techniques.