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THE NATIONAL READ-IN CHALLENGE:  DARWIN’S: THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES
Posted: 17 November 2009 06:17 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Thomas Donnelly’s ‘Benjamin Wiker - The Darwin Myth” 
discussion thread got me too thinking…..............................................wink
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Too bad we can’t have some kind of national book club thing.

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everyone agrees to read & discuss just one book, one chapter at a time.

THE NATIONAL READ-IN CHALLENGE:
DARWIN’S: THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES

I read it a few years back and was amazed at how all the public descriptions I’ve heard/hear/read, never got/get close to covering the substance of his writing.
The public needs to hear Darwin explain his thoughts for himself. 
Not just read/hear it, but also to think about it, and to discuss it on a national media, or viral webmedia, level.

To my reading the Master still out shines* pretty near everyone who has ever tried to explain him in a laymen/public media forum.
... and he does a better job of addressing objections.

*in clarity, prose, & most of all his own self-examination and openness to ferreting out all facets of a challenging question.

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Some of you folks out there have connections.

How about it?

anyone see some potentials in here?

I suggest this because I believe it’s time rational thinkers start going after the smoke’n mirrors bullshit
that right wingers and Republicans keep getting away with feeding us.



oh but there I go dreaming again

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Posted: 17 November 2009 06:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Besides considering all the whinning and screaming being done over the man’s book

Shouldn’t people look at that actual book a little closer.

it is a persuasive piece of work

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Posted: 17 November 2009 06:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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It persuaded me to quit going to church and read some science books.

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citizenschallenge - 17 November 2009 06:17 PM

Too bad we can’t have some kind of national book club thing.
you know,
everyone agrees to read & discuss just one book, one chapter at a time.

I’m embarrassed to say that I’ve never read it. I have had a copy for a long time, but just never got around to reading it. red face  I would love to have a reading group here where we could read a chapter a week, and then discuss it on a forum thread! We could set aside one day for reading and the other six for discussing the chapter!

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asanta - 17 November 2009 08:08 PM

I’m embarrassed to say that I’ve never read it. I have had a copy for a long time, but just never got around to reading it. red face  I would love to have a reading group here where we could read a chapter a week, and then discuss it on a forum thread! We could set aside one day for reading and the other six for discussing the chapter!

Give me seven or eight years to get through college and I’ll have time to join in. oh oh

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fotobits - 17 November 2009 08:14 PM
asanta - 17 November 2009 08:08 PM

I’m embarrassed to say that I’ve never read it. I have had a copy for a long time, but just never got around to reading it. red face  I would love to have a reading group here where we could read a chapter a week, and then discuss it on a forum thread! We could set aside one day for reading and the other six for discussing the chapter!

Give me seven or eight years to get through college and I’ll have time to join in. oh oh

LOL!!

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fotobits - 17 November 2009 08:14 PM

Give me seven or eight years to get through college and I’ll have time to join in. oh oh


don’t put off to tomorrow what you can do today   wink

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asanta - 17 November 2009 08:08 PM

I would love to have a reading group here where we could read a chapter a week, and then discuss it on a forum thread! We could set aside one day for reading and the other six for discussing the chapter!

OK, we got two to go…. and one some-dayer

Anyone else out there in cyber land?

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citizenschallenge - 17 November 2009 06:17 PM

everyone agrees to read & discuss just one book, one chapter at a time.

THE NATIONAL READ-IN CHALLENGE:
DARWIN’S: THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES

I was just thinking about this on Saturday. I was taking an airport shuttle from the airport to a hotel, and sitting up front with the driver, and there was a small Bible on the dashboard. I was thinking it would be neat to have a small copy of Darwin in thin paper that one could carry around…  just thinking…

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jackson0998 - 18 November 2009 07:48 PM

I was just thinking about this on Saturday. I was taking an airport shuttle from the airport to a hotel, and sitting up front with the driver, and there was a small Bible on the dashboard. I was thinking it would be neat to have a small copy of Darwin in thin paper that one could carry around…  just thinking…

Have you read the book, Jackson? On the Origin of Species is really not as much fun as many people who haven’t read it may think. It is certainly very interesting book and obviously one of a great importance, nevertheless, I don’t believe the majority of people would get passed the first chapter (yes, the one with the pigeons). Anyway, carrying around Darwin’s book would look kinda creepy, no?

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citizenschallenge - 17 November 2009 06:17 PM

Too bad we can’t have some kind of national book club thing.

you know,
everyone agrees to read & discuss just one book, one chapter at a time.

THE NATIONAL READ-IN CHALLENGE:
DARWIN’S: THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES

Maybe we can tie this in with the Kirk Cameron–Ray Comfort Origin into Schools” project:

In a video posted recently to YouTube, Cameron lays out a plan to subvert ‘Darwin Day’ on November 22, 2009—a date marking the 150th anniversary of the publishing of Charles Darwin’s “Origin of Species.” Cameron says that he and like-minded activists plan to deliver 50,000 copies of an altered version of Darwin’s book to students at dozens of U.S. universities.

Cameron explains that this “very special” edition of the “Origin of Species” will include an introduction explaining “Adolf Hitler’s undeniable connection” to the theory of evolution, and highlighting “Darwin’s racism” and “his disdain for women.” Cameron’s edition also exposes the “many hoaxes” of evolutionary theory, while presenting a “balanced view of Creationism.”

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George - 18 November 2009 08:24 PM
jackson0998 - 18 November 2009 07:48 PM

I was just thinking about this on Saturday. I was taking an airport shuttle from the airport to a hotel, and sitting up front with the driver, and there was a small Bible on the dashboard. I was thinking it would be neat to have a small copy of Darwin in thin paper that one could carry around…  just thinking…

Have you read the book, Jackson? On the Origin of Species is really not as much fun as many people who haven’t read it may think. It is certainly very interesting book and obviously one of a great importance, nevertheless, I don’t believe the majority of people would get passed the first chapter (yes, the one with the pigeons). Anyway, carrying around Darwin’s book would look kinda creepy, no?

well did you have an idea for another book….

are you saying you think that reading Origin of Species is creepy or just reading it on the subway?

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I would love to be a part of that. I love book discussions, online and face-to-face. Count me in!

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asanta - 17 November 2009 08:08 PM
citizenschallenge - 17 November 2009 06:17 PM

Too bad we can’t have some kind of national book club thing.
you know,
everyone agrees to read & discuss just one book, one chapter at a time.

I’m embarrassed to say that I’ve never read it. I have had a copy for a long time, but just never got around to reading it. red face  I would love to have a reading group here where we could read a chapter a week, and then discuss it on a forum thread! We could set aside one day for reading and the other six for discussing the chapter!

Don’t be embarrassed. I haven’t read it either. It’s not too late to start now, though.  grin

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George - 18 November 2009 08:24 PM

Have you read the book, Jackson? On the Origin of Species is really not as much fun as many people who haven’t read it may think. It is certainly very interesting book and obviously one of a great importance, nevertheless, I don’t believe the majority of people would get passed the first chapter (yes, the one with the pigeons).

Sure, people that can’t get their heads out of Hollyworld couldn’t make it through the first chapter.

But, if you are curious,
and if you are willing to appreciate that life and thinking and writing happened at a very different pace back when Origin of the Species was written ~
Then I believe it could be a very rewarding exercise.

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ps.  I’d be a liar if I didn’t admit to some skimming and page skipping here and there, yet time and again, all of a sudden the man would grab me with a sentence that forced me to back track, and always left me very impressed with what a real honest to goodness thinker is all about. 

George - 18 November 2009 08:24 PM

Anyway, carrying around Darwin’s book would look kinda creepy, no?

How about a classy condensed version?

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Kritikos - 19 November 2009 02:08 PM

Maybe we can tie this in with the Kirk Cameron–Ray Comfort Origin into Schools” project:

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” So Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron of The way of the Master have again chosen to let their actions speak to the worth of character that their religion instills. In their latest publicity stunt they have decided to take a book written 150 years ago by Charles Darwin and put in the front a 50 page introduction, a significant portion of which is devoted to bad mouthing the dead.

Yup that’s right, apparently dissing the dead is now fair game if you are a creationist.”

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