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Posted: 13 January 2010 10:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 46 ]
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Wo !! I take issue with that statement about Tracy often playing apelike guys !! I have seen almost all of his films.. and this is not true… he almost exclusively played quite erudite intelligent men.

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Posted: 13 January 2010 10:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 47 ]
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scepticeye - 13 January 2010 10:32 AM

Wo !! I take issue with that statement about Tracy often playing apelike guys !! I have seen almost all of his films.. and this is not true… he almost exclusively played quite erudite intelligent men.

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Posted: 13 January 2010 11:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 48 ]
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I understood the humor in Axegrrls comments. So is that Hepburn or not? I’m just curious to see if my celebrity recognition skills are ok.  grin

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Posted: 13 January 2010 11:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 49 ]
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VYAZMA - 13 January 2010 11:06 AM

I understood the humor in Axegrrls comments. So is that Hepburn or not? I’m just curious to see if my celebrity recognition skills are ok.  :-)

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Posted: 13 January 2010 11:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 50 ]
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Axegrrl - 13 January 2010 11:46 AM
VYAZMA - 13 January 2010 11:06 AM

I understood the humor in Axegrrls comments. So is that Hepburn or not? I’m just curious to see if my celebrity recognition skills are ok.  grin

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No, it’s a photo of Meryl Streep playing Katharine Hepburn.

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Nice job by Streep. I always liked her.

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Posted: 13 January 2010 11:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 51 ]
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Axegrrl - 13 January 2010 11:46 AM
VYAZMA - 13 January 2010 11:06 AM

I understood the humor in Axegrrls comments. So is that Hepburn or not? I’m just curious to see if my celebrity recognition skills are ok.  grin

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No, it’s a photo of Meryl Streep playing Katharine Hepburn.

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LOL

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Posted: 13 January 2010 12:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 52 ]
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Axegrrl - 13 January 2010 10:51 AM
scepticeye - 13 January 2010 10:32 AM

Wo !! I take issue with that statement about Tracy often playing apelike guys !! I have seen almost all of his films.. and this is not true… he almost exclusively played quite erudite intelligent men.

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a facade I tell you, a facade.

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Oooooh !

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Posted: 13 January 2010 06:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 53 ]
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LOL And I thought I had a monoply on being a wise-ass.  LOL  Good one, Axegrrl.

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Posted: 13 January 2010 06:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 54 ]
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romati - 03 January 2010 01:37 AM

I would like to get some advice from you how to behave in my personal situation.

My wife is of arabic origin and her family wishes a circumcision of our son.
For somebody who was not born in a culture/tradition like this it seems to be a rather
barbaric primitiv middle aged and unacceptable tradition.

But how should we treat the family of my wife??
Should we lie to circumcise or should we speak the thruth??
My wife fears to be expelled from her family.

Show them the Penn & Teller BS episode on the subject from season 2 or 3.  And then, hope they can reason.

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Posted: 13 January 2010 11:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 55 ]
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romati - 03 January 2010 01:37 AM

I would like to get some advice from you how to behave in my personal situation.

My wife is of arabic origin and her family wishes a circumcision of our son.
For somebody who was not born in a culture/tradition like this it seems to be a rather
barbaric primitiv middle aged and unacceptable tradition.

But how should we treat the family of my wife??
Should we lie to circumcise or should we speak the thruth??
My wife fears to be expelled from her family.

Show them the Penn & Teller BS episode on the subject from season 2 or 3.  And then, hope they can reason.

Is it a matter of reason?

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Posted: 14 January 2010 01:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 56 ]
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Occam - 13 January 2010 06:42 PM

LOL And I thought I had a monoply on being a wise-ass.  LOL  Good one, Axegrrl.

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Posted: 14 January 2010 02:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 57 ]
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Write4U - 13 January 2010 11:19 PM
Chudwick - 13 January 2010 06:45 PM
romati - 03 January 2010 01:37 AM

I would like to get some advice from you how to behave in my personal situation.

My wife is of arabic origin and her family wishes a circumcision of our son.
For somebody who was not born in a culture/tradition like this it seems to be a rather
barbaric primitiv middle aged and unacceptable tradition.

But how should we treat the family of my wife??
Should we lie to circumcise or should we speak the thruth??
My wife fears to be expelled from her family.

Show them the Penn & Teller BS episode on the subject from season 2 or 3.  And then, hope they can reason.

Is it a matter of reason?

Is it a matter of reason?  In this case, any approach will do, as long the kid doesn’t get circumcised and the family does not abandon the wife.  I am aware that there are other ways of “knowing” and hence other ways of persuading.  I think my suggestion is valid, though it is quite apparent, that I favor reason.

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Posted: 17 January 2010 01:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 58 ]
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Circumcision, outside of an actual medical necessity (more on that in a minute) is genital mutilation.  Since most Americans, including men, don’t care about men’s rights, it has largely gone unnoticed until the last decade.  Obviously, the converse would make people in the US cringe, but, such is our current social order (family law/child custody-support system next target).

I have three sons, none of which have been circumcised; however, my second son (age 6) will be in a couple months, due to phemosis, the painful failure of the skin to pull back.  His is a medical necessity according to his pediatrician, whom I trust.  My 12 year old and my 1 year old have had no such problems, nor did my father (born on a couch in 1941 Alabama). Me?  I was mutilated, part of my body was removed without my consent, but I survived.

Glad to see this as an issue on here.

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Posted: 17 January 2010 01:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 59 ]
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Asanta pointed out to me earlier in the thread, that it may be possible for a child with a non-retracting, painful foreskin, to have a simpler medical procedure to correct the retraction problem without resorting to circumcision. Also, has your doctor tried cortisone cream before resorting to the surgery?

The pediatric urologist I took my son to, said a strong cortisone cream (prescription, not over the counter) often solves the problem. The cortisone loosens the protein bonds in the skin, allowing the skin to stretch and often correcting the problem. It must be used for six weeks before you can tell if the results are favorable.

Given that your son’s surgery is scheduled in two months, it might be worth trying the skin cream first. If it doesn’t work, no harm done. If it does work, you can avoid surgery. The child psychologist I’m consulting said circumcision of children old enough to remember, is often very traumatic.

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Posted: 17 January 2010 02:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 60 ]
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Jules, yes, they did try that.  Unfortunately it did not work.

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