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Posted: 02 April 2010 01:34 PM   [ Ignore ]
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At Vatican Service, Persecution of Jews Is Invoked-NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/world/europe/03church.html


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The recent analogy made by the Catholic church between the persecution of Jews, and the criticism of the Catholic church is so appalling and heinous that it exceeds all proper decorum.  What I find particularly offensive about the comments made by Raniero Cantalamessa on behalf of the Vatican is that the Catholic church itself is historically to blame for the existence of anti-semitism in the world.  In fact, one could argue that anti-semitism is one of the greatest offenses committed by the Catholic Church since its inception.  Furthermore, such an erroneous analogy dismisses the vile acts that have brought the critical eye of the world to rest upon the church in the first place.  Whereas the Jews committed no crime to be worthy of the persecution that they were forced to endure historically, Catholics are being criticized for their ambivalent attitudes towards crimes that their clergy have committed against children.  Their is a great gulf between being persecuted for belonging to a specific race or culture when you have committed no wrong and being persecuted for crimes against innocent children that you have condoned and concealed; these two affairs are profoundly antithetical. 

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Moreover, these pedophiliac crimes are made worse by the fact that many of the victimized children were likely forced to attend the Catholic Church and coerced into the Christian faith by religiously abusive parents who imposed their own religion on their children.  Hence, it is quite probable that the victims of these crimes were not put in harm’s way by their own volition or any action for which they could be held accountable. 

So, at a time when the Church should be humbled by their grossly inept judgement in regard to the handling of pedophile priests, instead the Vatican has chosen to exacerbate the offense by displaying their callous attitude towards past transgressions.  And to make matters worse, this is compounded by the problem of Joseph Ratzinger’s already questionable past concerning his association with the Holocaust and his attitudes towards the Jewish community. 


All in all, Ratzinger’s Papacy has done nothing but strengthen the argument of religious critics who contend that religion is a force for evil in the world, and propagated the Catholic tradition of practicing villainy in the world at large while proclaiming themselves to be virtuous and righteous.

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Posted: 02 April 2010 01:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Yes, this is truly shameless.

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Posted: 03 April 2010 09:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Reaction to it HERE:

Outrage at anti-Semitism comparison by Pope preacher

Jewish groups and victims of sex abuse by Catholic priests have condemned the Pope’s preacher for comparing criticism of the pontiff to anti-Semitism.

US-based abuse victims’ group Snap said the remarks were “morally wrong”.

The head of Germany’s Central Council of Jews described the Easter sermon as unprecedented “insolence”.

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The secretary general of Germany’s Central Council of Jews, Stephan Kramer, told the Associated Press the remarks were “repulsive, obscene and most of all offensive towards all abuse victims as well as to all the victims of the Holocaust”.

A spokesman for the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (Snap) said the sermon had been “reckless and irresponsible”. ...

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Posted: 03 April 2010 09:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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First the gays, now the Jews. What’s next? What else can the Church use to distract everybody from what is the main issue here?

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Posted: 03 April 2010 10:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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George - 03 April 2010 09:35 AM

First the gays, now the Jews. What’s next? What else can the Church use to distract everybody from what is the main issue here?

You got it, George. Anything to take focus off the fact that known child predators were given free access to children. Vatican documents going back decades, some 100 years, discuss the problem of pedophile priests. And it was shown in several documents that the former Pope (and undoubtedly the current one) were WELL aware of this problem.

It angers me all the times church officials say “The Pope was unaware” or “The Vatican was unaware.” That is bullsh*t.

Letter Indicates Former Pope Knew of Abuse

LOS ANGELES— The head of a Roman Catholic order that specialized in the treatment of pedophile priests visited with then-Pope Paul VI nearly 50 years ago and followed up with a letter recommending the removal of pedophile priests from ministry, according to a copy of the letter obtained by The Associated Press on Wednesday.

In the Aug. 27, 1963, letter, the head of the New Mexico-based Servants of the Holy Paraclete tells the pope he recommends removing pedophile priests from active ministry and strongly urges defrocking repeat offenders.

The letter shows that the Vatican knew, or should have known, about clergy abuse in the U.S. decades ago, said Anthony DeMarco, a plaintiff attorney in Los Angeles who provided the letter. The accusation comes as plaintiffs in Kentucky are attempting to sue the Vatican for negligence for allegedly failing to alert police or the public about priests who molested children.

Yet the problem was very well-known to Rome well before the 1960s. The 1917 code of canon law criminalized sexual abuse of minors. Five years later, the Vatican penned a document outlining detailed procedures for handling such cases. In 1962, that document was updated and has been used in many of the lawsuits by victims against U.S. diocese and the Vatican itself.

Bold emphasis mine. The problem is so bad, they have an IN-HOUSE REHAB FOR PEDOPHILES!

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Posted: 03 April 2010 10:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Furthermore, there’s another post at

http://www.secularism.org.uk/child-abuse-overshadows-another.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+nssnews+(NSS+News) 

that discusses sexual abuse within the church towards women that is not even being mentioned.  As if, only the crimes against males are important!

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Posted: 03 April 2010 11:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Higginz - 03 April 2010 10:57 AM

Furthermore, there’s another post at

http://www.secularism.org.uk/child-abuse-overshadows-another.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+nssnews+(NSS+News) 

that discusses sexual abuse within the church towards women that is not even being mentioned.  As if, only the crimes against males are important!

A great number of the children victimized by pedophile church employees were female. Somehow, that does not make the news as much.

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Posted: 03 April 2010 12:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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George - 03 April 2010 09:35 AM

First the gays, now the Jews. What’s next? What else can the Church use to distract everybody from what is the main issue here?

well put….very well put…

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Posted: 03 April 2010 12:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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[Peggy Noonan’s column on the Catholic Church’s Catastrophe is most popular WSJ article today—above the iPad…]

I disagree with Noonan’s closing comments…

There are three great groups of victims in this story. The first and most obvious, the children who were abused, who trusted, were preyed upon and bear the burden through life. The second group is the good priests and good nuns, the great leaders of the church in the day to day, who save the poor, teach the immigrant, and, literally, save lives. They have been stigmatized when they deserve to be lionized. And the third group is the Catholics in the pews—the heroic Catholics of America and now Europe, the hardy souls who in spite of what has been done to their church are still there, still making parish life possible, who hold high the flag, their faith unshaken. No one thanks those Catholics, sees their heroism, respects their patience and fidelity. The world thinks they’re stupid. They are not stupid, and with their prayers they keep the world going, and the old church too

I think the actions of the Catholic priests undermine the credibility of the Catholic faith—and that this third group of “heroic” Catholics is defending an empty shell.  There is no real truth at the heart of the Catholic faith. They aren’t stupid - but they are wrong.

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Posted: 03 April 2010 02:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Abuse hotline set up by Catholic Church in Germany melts down on first day as 4,000 people phone in

An abuse hotline set up by the Catholic Church in Germany melted down on its first day of operation as more than 4,000 alleged victims of paedophile and violent priests called in to seek counselling and advice. The numbers were far more than the handful of therapists assigned to deal with them could cope with.  In the end only 162 out of 4,459 callers were given advice before the system was shut down.
Andreas Zimmer, head of the project in the Bishopric of Trier, admitted that he wasn’t prepared for “that kind of an onslaught’. 

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Posted: 03 April 2010 03:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Jules - 03 April 2010 11:26 AM
Higginz - 03 April 2010 10:57 AM

Furthermore, there’s another post at

http://www.secularism.org.uk/child-abuse-overshadows-another.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+nssnews+(NSS+News) 

that discusses sexual abuse within the church towards women that is not even being mentioned.  As if, only the crimes against males are important!

A great number of the children victimized by pedophile church employees were female. Somehow, that does not make the news as much.

While I don’t know any men who had been raped by priests, I do know two middle aged women who were. I has affected their lives in so many negative ways. I would just bet that the majority of victims are girls, we are just not worth as much to the church as men are.

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Posted: 04 April 2010 06:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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So it continues ... Cantalamessa apologizes for comparing criticism of the church with antisemitism, but another cardinal describes the allegations as “petty gossip”. See HERE:

Catholic Cardinal rejects sex abuse ‘gossip’

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Fr Raniero Cantalamessa told Italy’s Corriere della Sera newspaper that he had only meant to point to “the use of stereotype and the easy passage from individual to collective guilt”.

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During Easter Mass in St Peter’s Square, Cardinal Sodano expressed solidarity with the Pope, who has himself come under scrutiny for his role in handling past cases of abuse.

“Holy Father, the people of God are with you and will not let themselves be influenced by the petty gossip of the moment, by the trials that sometimes assail the community of believers,” the cardinal said. ...

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Posted: 04 April 2010 07:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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NY Times 4/4/2010: The Archbishop of Canterbury has raised the ante by describing the Catholic Church in Ireland as “losing all credibility” because of its poor handling of the ‘crisis’.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/04/world/europe/04church.html

In a BBC radio interview, part of which was made public on Saturday, the archbishop, the Most Rev. Rowan Williams, described the abuse scandal as a “colossal trauma” for Ireland in particular

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Posted: 04 April 2010 02:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Re: Doug’s post, The catholic church just doesn’t know when to shut up, do they? If you can’t say anything to make it better, don’t say anything to make it worse! they keep digging their hole deeper, and deeper, and deeper!!

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Posted: 04 April 2010 04:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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The Vatican says: We Don’t Care About “Petty Gossip”

A top Vatican cardinal denounced what he called “petty gossip” surrounding Pope Benedict and accusations that the pontiff mishandled church sex abuse cases.

They need to just keep their mouths shut. Every time they speak, they dig the hole deeper.

People concerned about their systematic endorsed and encouraged child sexual abuse are “petty gossip?”  angry

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Posted: 04 April 2010 05:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Jules - 04 April 2010 04:11 PM

They need to just keep their mouths shut. Every time they speak, they dig the hole deeper.

People concerned about their systematic endorsed and encouraged child sexual abuse are “petty gossip?”  angry

We need a ‘smiley’ with smoke coming out of it’s ears, that one just doesn’t look upset enough….. mad

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