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Posted: 23 August 2010 11:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 46 ]
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George - 23 August 2010 11:44 AM
Write4U - 23 August 2010 11:36 AM

I am advocating an immediate concentration on slowing down the growth rate of the worlds population and reaching a 0% growth rate in the shortest possible way.

The rate of increase of the world population has been coming down since the 1960’s. We should reach the population peak around 2075 (9 billion people) after which the population will start to decline.

Buckminister Fuller noted that industrialization brought with it a sharp decline in population growth. Presumably, having a dozen children to support you in old age gives way to the social safety net - which is reasonable.

Raising a lot of kids is not easy or all fun. Enjoying your own life, if you are granted that as an option, makes its own friends.

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Posted: 23 August 2010 11:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 47 ]
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Dead Monky - 23 August 2010 11:48 AM

We’ll all be dead by then anyway, so it’s moot.

I won’t. I eat a lot of broccoli and yogurt while boosting my body’s energy through yoga, meditation and daily doses of echinacea.  grin

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 48 ]
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You better hope it’s probiotic yogurt.  Eat Activia.  If you don’t poop every ten hours on the dot, there’s something wrong with your GI tract and you’re probably dying.

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 49 ]
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Martinus - 23 August 2010 11:53 AM

Presumably, having a dozen children to support you in old age gives way to the social safety net - which is reasonable.

There is only one problem with this theory. Maybe the major reason why people have a lot of kids is genetic and until these people die out, the economy will not progress. It is easy to see correlation here, but probably more difficult to figure out what exactly is causing what. Nobody has a clear picture of why the population growth rate is declining.

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 50 ]
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I always thought having numerous children was a holdover from poor, agrarian societies where child mortality rates are high and you need a lot of help on the farm.  So you churn kids out to provide free labor and get over the high baby death rate.

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 51 ]
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George - 23 August 2010 11:44 AM
Write4U - 23 August 2010 11:36 AM

I am advocating an immediate concentration on slowing down the growth rate of the worlds population and reaching a 0% growth rate in the shortest possible way.

The rate of increase of the world population has been coming down since the 1960’s. We should reach the population peak around 2075 (9 billion people) after which the population will start to decline.

The current rate is 1.5 growth. This translates in an exponential factor of doubling every 46 years. Even if we can bring this down to 1 % growth (doubling every 70 years), by 2075 we shall have a population of at least 12 billion people. No one is doing the math!!!!
That was the whole point of Bartlett’s lecture. No one is doing the math or realizing the implications.

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 52 ]
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No one is doing the math!!!!
That was the whole point of Bartlett’s lecture. No one is doing the math or realizing the implications.

Actually, there are a lot of people doing the math.  The US Census Bureau, the WHO, various environmental and population control groups, etc.

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 53 ]
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Dead Monky - 23 August 2010 12:10 PM

I always thought having numerous children was a holdover from poor, agrarian societies where child mortality rates are high and you need a lot of help on the farm.  So you churn kids out to provide free labor and get over the high baby death rate.

It was not only the poor farmers. Rich people had a lot of kids, too.

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 54 ]
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Write4U - 23 August 2010 12:12 PM

No one is doing the math!!!!

Yes, you.

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 55 ]
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Dead Monky - 23 August 2010 12:10 PM

I always thought having numerous children was a holdover from poor, agrarian societies where child mortality rates are high and you need a lot of help on the farm.  So you churn kids out to provide free labor and get over the high baby death rate.

And the famous command “Go forth and multiply”

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 56 ]
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George - 23 August 2010 12:20 PM
Write4U - 23 August 2010 12:12 PM

No one is doing the math!!!!

Yes, you.

I am quoting the math from Professor Emeritus Albert Bartlett,  and his observation that most politicians don’t understand or ignore it. For those who have not yet seen the entire lecture, I urge to take the time and watch all 8 segments. It’s worth it.
I’ll list it again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY&p=6A1FD147A45EF50D&playnext=1

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 57 ]
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No, it is not worth it because Professor Emeritus is wrong. Google it.

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 58 ]
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HERE, Write4U.

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 59 ]
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George - 23 August 2010 12:32 PM

No, it is not worth it because Professor Emeritus is wrong. Google it.

And do the nay sayers have a solution to achieve a 0% population growth? Or are we merely observing a natural decline for which we have no explanation and therefore no plan of implementation? Lets just hope this trend will continue?
I would appreciate it if anyone can furnish me a link, which clearly and accurately can predict what the world will look like in 70 yrs (one lifetime).

p.s. professor emeritus in physics.

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Posted: 23 August 2010 12:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 60 ]
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Write4U - 23 August 2010 12:21 PM

And the famous command “Go forth and multiply”

Wrong again, Write4U. The fertility in Europe started to decline in the 19th century. In those days probably everybody was a Christian.

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