Livio did well. The hostess, Tippet, she mentioned videos and lectures that they are doing together [26:10]. I guess that they’ve teamed up for a little while. Although I don’t see the “SOF Live” page that she mentioned, I do see some videos listed on their vimeo page (one of those little icons at the top of the Speaking of Faith page).
I thought it was interesting how Livio mentioned Penrose’s characterizing the universe as having three worlds, one being the physical world, one being the world inside our brains, and the third being mathematics. Then he described how these conflict and are interdependent: the physical world creating images in our brains, our brains inventing/discovering the mathematical; and that world defining and describing the physical. I thought that was clever.
A person who “... needs a god that is there for him or her every day, every minute every second. Science has nothing to say about a god like this. This is in a completely parallel plain…” without overlap [21:44, though that thought begins at about 19:50], agreeing with Stephen J. Gould’s two separate majesteria.
And most important, Livio and I think that Tippet agrees, that science should be communicated like art is, as culture. For example, Livio explained that the Hubble has brought the great passion for discovery into people’s homes, this is important to Livio. I wonder how science/discovery can be comunicated better, maybe dramatized?
I’ve outlined the highlights in the audio, if you’d like:
is math discovered, or invented: 7:07
Roger Penrose’s three worlds: 10:18
beauty and mathematicians; symmetry : 13:13
science/art/religion influencing each other: 19:50
God is a mathematician : 25:20
SOF live page: 26:00
Alfred North Whitehead: 30:20
more mystery: 31:17
baby-steps; Jack Szostak: 36:27
Hubble telescope; communicating science like art is communicated, as culture: 37:15
new mysteries, 1998, dark energy: 43:40
humans at the center?: 42:16
Lord Kelvin; everything has been solved but just two small problems: 46:45
“Who ordered this?”: 47:25