I think it is important to have a healthy debate on this issue, considering every angle, whether or not it is popular, or widely accepted.
However, a need for a debate also carries with it the obligation to make one’s arguements and points based on verifiable facts, not misrepresentation.
That’s the problem in this instance: Facts appear to be taking it in the shorts while misdirection takes pride of place.
Come on that’s rhetorical babble! Do you have any claims to make, or examples to offer?
Incidentally, how long should you worry about entertaining the illusion of Santa Claus for your eight year old?
Do you appreciate that,
along with being open to debate - you need to be open to laying to rest demonstrably false assertions.
Are you ready to do that? Or do you preferred endless dog-chasing-tail arguments?