I saw a -70F and a +126F!! Those numbers are SCARY! Summer has just begun in the northern hemisphere and the southern hemisphere is in winter, summer won’t get there for another 5 months.. Our warmest months are Aug and Sept.
My standard comeback now to AGW deniers who spout off about climate scientists not know what might happen in the future is: The future is here. Climate change is happening now. Global warming is not something that will happen, it is something that is happening.
113 for the highs and -29 for the lows is about right for what we have had the past few years. I wasn’t talking about whether it was shattering or not. I was talking about what it has been these last few years. The heatwaves don’t actually bother me. It’s the lows.
We’re talking global climate change Mriana. From the link I posted above:
“Hellish heatwave” in Pakistan sets hottest temperature in Asia’s history, 53.5°C (128.3°F); in India, hundreds die, death toll expected to rise as record temperatures soar up to 122°F.
You might not be sanguine about high temperatures if you lived in Pakistan or India.
I understand your comment about the lows. One thing many deniers gloss over is our low temperatures have risen even more than our highs (I’m talking about North America), which factors into record daily average temperatures.
We’re talking global climate change Mriana. From the link I posted above:
“Hellish heatwave” in Pakistan sets hottest temperature in Asia’s history, 53.5°C (128.3°F); in India, hundreds die, death toll expected to rise as record temperatures soar up to 122°F.
You might not be sanguine about high temperatures if you lived in Pakistan or India.
I understand your comment about the lows. One thing many deniers gloss over is our low temperatures have risen even more than our highs (I’m talking about North America), which factors into record daily average temperatures.
I’m not denying climate change and I agree we need to do something, but I’m not panicking. What good is it going to do for us to panic?
I think people are getting sucked into a strawman argument. Record high and low temperatures are just single points, and they’ve been happening in various places ever since recording began. The effects of AGW are not these odd extremes. Rather, the very small consistent and long term temperature increases across large areas is what’s beginning to cause the real problems by causing such things as shifting weather patterns and rising sea levels.
What straw man? I cannot find data indicating any other year that started with six consecutive months of record high global average temperatures. Temps are hitting record highs around the world, and the trend is increasing toward more record highs and fewer record lows. This chart from the climateprogress.org site article linked above shows the trend quite clearly. No one on this thread is panicking, just pointing out facts.
I’m just saying that single point - record high or low - pieces of data are great arguing points but aren’t nearly as significant as changes in means or medians. For example, if I were trying to argue the other side I’d point out that the high temperature points in Southern California has been lower than they have been in the 90s.
Your chart seems to indicate the record highs and lows in each of the decades occurred somewhere in the U.S., but what about all the rest of the U.S. that had temperatures that weren’t record highs at the same time? That’s why I feel the record high or low data is interesting but not of as much value as broader, more inclusive data.
Oh, and thanks for the reference to the article by Julia Galef, Darron.
I have to agree with Occam on this one, because it doesn’t state any actually specific data. It MIGHT give us more information if it was more specific, listing trends in various locations of the U.S. and not just as an overall deal. As is, it doesn’t give us a whole lot of information to go by and quite frankly, MO saw the same record highs in the 1800s. However, this wasn’t an going thing anymore than it is now. Last year, at this time, we were fighting heat indexes well into the 100s and it was worse than that the year before. We have yet to experience that this year. The high, the last couple of days have been in the 80s with no heat index any where near 100 even. Currently at 7:22 it is 75 degrees and the heat index, although very humid right now due to heavy cloud cover and a strong chance for a storm, is 75 degrees. I don’t know what it is CA, but I would assume they aren’t suffering anymore than we are. Last year at this time the temp was well into the 90s here and the year before that, if I remember correctly we did have 100 degree temps, before the heat index. Average that out and well, your chart just doesn’t hold up very well, without more information. Not for MO at least.
It’s just the opposite in So. Cal., Mriana. Quite a few mornings recently, I’ve gotten up, and thought to myself as I shivered, “When the hell is global warming goint to kick in?”
[Sorry, CC. I’m being a wise ass but it has been unseasonably cool here.]
It’s just the opposite in So. Cal., Mriana. Quite a few mornings recently, I’ve gotten up, and thought to myself as I shivered, “When the hell is global warming goint to kick in?”
[Sorry, CC. I’m being a wise ass but it has been unseasonably cool here.]
Occam
Yes, we’ve had pretty cool mornings too. I’ve put a blanket on at night lately because I’ve gotten so cold and that’s without a fan or A/C. I think some mornings have been in the 60s lately. Cold enough for me to put on a blanket.
Our warmest months are Aug and Sept. 
