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Posted: 24 March 2011 10:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 166 ]
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I read somewhere that fat from wild animals is “healthier” than fat from domesticated animals. Supposedly, they figured this out when Eskimos traded hunting for consumption of meat from domesticated animals and their health begun to decline.

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Posted: 24 March 2011 12:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 167 ]
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George - 24 March 2011 10:58 AM

I read somewhere that fat from wild animals is “healthier” than fat from domesticated animals. Supposedly, they figured this out when Eskimos traded hunting for consumption of meat from domesticated animals and their health begun to decline.

The Inuit also traded consumption of meat for consumption of a lot of other stuff they didn’t traditionally eat. THAT was the problem…not domestic vs wild. They also became more sedentary, like the rest of us.

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Posted: 24 March 2011 04:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 168 ]
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I believe the food wild animals graze on has more unsaturated fat, while the high calorie feed given to domesticated animals to fatten them up fast, contains mostly saturated fat.  That may be another difference.

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Posted: 24 March 2011 05:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 169 ]
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Occam. - 24 March 2011 04:14 PM

I believe the food wild animals graze on has more unsaturated fat, while the high calorie feed given to domesticated animals to fatten them up fast, contains mostly saturated fat.  That may be another difference.

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Posted: 25 March 2011 05:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 170 ]
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Wild, domesticated.  Who cares?  They’re both delicious.

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Posted: 25 March 2011 08:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 171 ]
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Hand washing is good before handling food.  But what to do?  Hand soap, or anti-bacterial hand liquid detergent?  The hand soap is old tried and true, the new detergents are not proven to be as good as soap by the companies profiting from them and are popular.

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Posted: 25 March 2011 11:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 172 ]
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For whatever it may be worth, I tend to avoid the anti-bacterials. The problem with this stuff is that it’s never 100% effective, and the nastier bugs which survive it tend to be the ones with a resistance to it. Eventually, you get Attila The Germ as a result and it’s a helluva lot tougher to kill.

The nice thing about plain soap and water is that it does the job well enough on it’s own, and with a thorough job, the small and nasties just get washed down the drain.

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Posted: 26 March 2011 09:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 173 ]
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Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon - 25 March 2011 11:32 PM

For whatever it may be worth, I tend to avoid the anti-bacterials. The problem with this stuff is that it’s never 100% effective, and the nastier bugs which survive it tend to be the ones with a resistance to it. Eventually, you get Attila The Germ as a result and it’s a helluva lot tougher to kill.

The nice thing about plain soap and water is that it does the job well enough on it’s own, and with a thorough job, the small and nasties just get washed down the drain.

I stay away from the anti-bacterials for the same reason. I never understood why 99.9% effective was a compelling selling point. I would wonder about the critters who ‘escaped’. No point in killing all of the 90lb weaklings when you leave Arnie around to complete the take down!

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Posted: 26 March 2011 09:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 174 ]
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I stay away from the anti-bacterials for the same reason. I never understood why 99.9% effective was a compelling selling point.

It plays to the fears of homemakers who think that everything about the house has to by hypersterilized in order to be acceptably clean. It ignores the fact that if one lives in an environment which is too clean, that one tends to lose a natural immunity to infections.

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Posted: 26 March 2011 10:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 175 ]
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Somewhat related…
I often feel better in the kitchen as a vegan because we don’t have the germ-laden meat touching everything.

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Posted: 26 March 2011 12:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 176 ]
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traveler - 26 March 2011 10:10 AM

Somewhat related…
I often feel better in the kitchen as a vegan because we don’t have the germ-laden meat touching everything.

Then that just leaves the germ laiden veggies, remember the infections spreading through spinach, green onions, etc. of the past few years? 

The vegan/meat diet debates are being chewed on in the Red Meat Is Good For You! thread, JFYI if you’d like.  smile

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Posted: 26 March 2011 12:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 177 ]
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jump_in_the_pit - 26 March 2011 12:21 PM
traveler - 26 March 2011 10:10 AM

Somewhat related…
I often feel better in the kitchen as a vegan because we don’t have the germ-laden meat touching everything.

Then that just leaves the germ laiden veggies, remember the infections spreading through spinach, green onions, etc. of the psat few years? 

The vegan/meat diet debates are being chewed on in the Red Meat Is Good For You! thread, JFYI if you’d like.  smile

Thanks Jump! Veggies definitely need to be washed, but one advantage I really like about being vegan is that I can lick the spoon when I make brownies (no eggs). BTW, the brownie recipe in the “Engine 2” vegan book is awesome. It can be seen HERE. I add lots of walnuts!

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Posted: 26 March 2011 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 178 ]
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Ener-G egg replacer, hummm, what’s that?  It looks like it is made with tapioca starchTapioca starch is dried processed cassava, and cassava produces a toxin when cut.  The toxin isn’t heat stable, I hear.  Beware about eating Ener-G egg replacer raw, it might have unheated toxins.  Boy the concoctions that some people will devise to avoid animal products, there are some odd concoctions out there. smile  Good luck, good day, and good eating Traveler, I love a veggie salad, one with everything.

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Posted: 26 March 2011 03:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 179 ]
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jump_in_the_pit - 26 March 2011 01:00 PM

Ener-G egg replacer, hummm, what’s that?  It looks like it is made with tapioca starchTapioca starch is dried processed cassava, and cassava produces a toxin when cut.  The toxin isn’t heat stable, I hear.  Beware about eating Ener-G egg replacer raw, it might have unheated toxins.  Boy the concoctions that some people will devise to avoid animal products, there are some odd concoctions out there. smile  Good luck, good day, and good eating Traveler, I love a veggie salad, one with everything.

Not worried since konzo is “associated with several weeks of almost exclusive consumption of insufficiently processed bitter cassava.” Ener-G is processed and a full pan of brownies uses just a tablespoon. Good luck, good day, and good eating to you too. Great find, BTW!

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Posted: 26 March 2011 10:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 180 ]
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I often feel better in the kitchen as a vegan because we don’t have the germ-laden meat touching everything.

Unfortunately. problems such as what you get with e-coli contamination are not limited to meat or any other animal products. I remember a recall for example over spinach from Mexico and lettuce from the good old U.S. of A.

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