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Posted: 23 February 2011 12:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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TromboneAndrew - 23 February 2011 01:11 AM

What in the world are you talking about?


This made me laugh. smile

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Posted: 27 February 2011 10:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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-  The Special Theory of Relativity.
==========================..
It began in 1905 when Einstein created SRT,
(theory of photon/electron’s behaviour).
Minkowski, tried to understand SRT using 4D space.
Poor young Einstein, reading Minkowski interpretation,
said, that now he couldn’t understand his own theory.
“ Einstein, you are right, it is difficult to understand SRT
using 4D space. But it is possible using my 5D space”
- said Kaluza in 1921.
This theory was tested and found insufficient.
“Well”, said another mathematicians, - “maybe 6D, 7D,
8D, 9D spaces will explain it”. And they had done it.
But the doubts still remain.
“OK”, they say, “we have only one way to solve this problem.
We must create more complex D spaces”.
And they do it, they use all their power, all their super intellects
to solve this problem.
Glory to these mathematicians !!!!
But……….
But there is one problem.
To create new D space, mathematicians must add a new parameter.
It is impossible to create new D space without a new parameter.
And the mathematicians take this parameter arbitrarily
(it fixed according to his opinion, not by objective rules).
# The physicist, R. Lipin explained this situation in such way:
“Give me three parameters and I can fit an elephant.
With four I can make him wiggle his trunk…”
To this Lipin’s opinion it is possible to add:
“with one more parameter the elephant will fly.”
The mathematicians sell and we buy these theories.
Where are our brains?
===============.
The SRT is a real theory.
But ” 4-D Minkowski space ” is an abstract theory.
Minkowski’s mathematic theory has nothing to do with physics,
with the Nature. There isn’t any proof of its existence.
And if we mix these two theories then we are
surprised with its paradox.
What does the man usually do in such situation?
It is clear, he must understand
what “ 4-D Minkowski space ” is. I say, it is Vacuum.
But somebody can say: “ You are wrong,
4-D Minkowski space is only a part of 11-D space.”
Maybe this argument is correct. Then we must suppose
that the 11-D space will be a part of some 47-D space
in 50 years. And who knows where its end is.
Perhaps in 123-D space the physicists will find the God there.
And if we don’t know what 1+1 = 2
how can we know what 5+4 = 9 ?
And if we don’t know what is 4-D negative space
( 4-D positive Minkowski space )
how can we understand 11-D space ( string theory) ?
In another words, if we don’t know what “ 4-D Minkowski
space ” is, so it is impossible to take SRT as a finished one.
The proof of SRT isn’t over yet. We must give a real
interpretation to “ 4-D Minkowski space “. I only hope that
a simple, usual logic will help a man to understand its essence.
======.    =========
If I were a king, I would publish a law:
every mathematician who takes part in the creation
of 4D space and higher is to be awarded a medal
“To the winner over common sense”.
Why?
Because they have won us over using the
absurd ideas of Minkowski and Kaluza.
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I think this 4-D negative space is a real one. 
I think this space is Vacuum.
Why?
1.“ Minkowski space “ has no gravity field, but has negative parameter.
2. Only pure Vacuum space has no gravity
but has negative parameter : T= - 273= 0K.
3. The negative parameter is united with space/ time , which are
joined together absolutely and this unit we can see in Vacuum .
4. And the second SRT postulate tells about constant moving
light quanta in Vacuum.
5. It is impossible SRT to be the right theory
and space around SRT to be an abstract theory.
6. If in our brain abstract and real ideas are mixed together
then the interpretation of physics must be paradoxical.
====== ======
P.S.
Sorry.
I forgot that all Universe began from ” apparent big bang “.
So I must add the ” apparent big bang ” to ” D-space”
…………..or to ” the God “......................
Then ...............
The atheist will say : ” There isn’t any God. There is only
big band which destroyed all “D- spaces” and therefore
we see background radiation T=2,7K now.”
And religious man will say: ” The God exists.
He sits at his “ D- home” and plays with all things.
For example.
The action, when the God compresses all Universe
into his palm,  we have named ” a singular point”.
And action, when the God opens his palm,
we have named the “Big Bang”.
I don’t know who is right.
But I came to conclusion:
” If I, as a peasant, think like modern physicists,
I will never gather my harvest . “
=======    ======..
If mathematician makes a small mistake in the
beginning of his calculations then after some
operations it grows into a big one.
And if in the beginning of sciences birth (Newton )
the abstract ideas were put into its fundament ,
then now we are surprised with its paradoxes………
………………………..
and we can create new and new theories for 1000 years
but the result will be the same - paradoxical.
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik.  Socratus.
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Posted: 27 February 2011 12:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Nice allegories. Unfortunately not supported by fact.

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Posted: 27 February 2011 10:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Write4U - 27 February 2011 12:30 PM

Nice allegories. Unfortunately not supported by fact.

The fact is: ‘ We don’t know what Minkowski -4D is
and therefore all construction of SRT is absurd.

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Posted: 27 February 2011 11:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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socratus - 27 February 2011 10:40 AM

The atheist will say : ” There isn’t any God. There is only
big band which destroyed all “D- spaces”

I had no idea Big Band was such a threat. Perhaps we need to stick with heavy metal.

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Posted: 27 February 2011 11:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Bees Mom - 27 February 2011 11:01 PM
socratus - 27 February 2011 10:40 AM

The atheist will say : ” There isn’t any God. There is only
big band which destroyed all “D- spaces”

I had no idea Big Band was such a threat. Perhaps we need to stick with heavy metal.

C

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You can tell me that it’s ‘ big bang’ but where
this matter for ‘big bang’ come from?
2 You can tell me that it’s ‘heavy metal’ but where
this ‘heavy metal’ come from?
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Posted: 27 February 2011 11:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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socratus - 27 February 2011 11:21 PM
Bees Mom - 27 February 2011 11:01 PM
socratus - 27 February 2011 10:40 AM

The atheist will say : ” There isn’t any God. There is only
big band which destroyed all “D- spaces”

I had no idea Big Band was such a threat. Perhaps we need to stick with heavy metal.

C

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You can tell me that it’s ‘ big bang’ but where
this matter for ‘big bang’ come from?
2 You can tell me that it’s ‘heavy metal’ but where
this ‘heavy metal’ come from?
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Compression (into an infinitely small singularity) and release (potential energy becoming physical energy), much like the mechanism in a meganova.  A Quantum Mega Event (QME). i.e Big Bang.

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Posted: 27 February 2011 11:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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socratus - 27 February 2011 11:21 PM
Bees Mom - 27 February 2011 11:01 PM
socratus - 27 February 2011 10:40 AM

The atheist will say : ” There isn’t any God. There is only
big band which destroyed all “D- spaces”

I had no idea Big Band was such a threat. Perhaps we need to stick with heavy metal.

C

1
You can tell me that it’s ‘ big bang’ but where
this matter for ‘big bang’ come from?
2 You can tell me that it’s ‘heavy metal’ but where
this ‘heavy metal’ come from?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_band
The big band is a type of musical ensemble associated with jazz, a style of music which became popular during the Swing Era from the early 1930s until the late 1940s. Big bands evolved with the times and continue to today. A big band typically consists of approximately 12 to 25 musicians and contains saxophones, trumpets, trombones, singers (or vocalists), and a rhythm section. The terms jazz band, jazz ensemble, stage band, jazz orchestra, society band and dance band may be used to describe a specific type of big band.

In contrast to smaller jazz combos, in which most of the music is improvised, or created spontaneously, music played by big bands is highly “arranged”, or prepared in advance and notated on sheet music. The music is traditionally called “charts”. Improvised solos may be played only when called for by the arranger.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music
Heavy metal (often referred to simply as metal) is a genre of rock music[1] that developed in the late 1960s and early 1970s, largely in the United Kingdom and the United States.[2] With roots in blues rock and psychedelic rock, the bands that created heavy metal developed a thick, massive sound, characterized by highly amplified distortion, extended guitar solos, emphatic beats, and overall loudness. Heavy metal lyrics and performance styles are generally associated with masculinity and machismo.[3]

The first heavy metal bands such as Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple attracted large audiences, though they were often critically reviled, a status common throughout the history of the genre. In the mid-1970s Judas Priest helped spur the genre’s evolution by discarding much of its blues influence; Motörhead introduced a punk rock sensibility and an increasing emphasis on speed. Bands in the New Wave of British Heavy Metal such as Iron Maiden followed in a similar vein. Before the end of the decade, heavy metal had attracted a worldwide following of fans known as “metalheads” or “headbangers”.

In the 1980s, glam metal became a major commercial force with groups like Mötley Crüe. Underground scenes produced an array of more extreme, aggressive styles: thrash metal broke into the mainstream with bands such as Metallica, while other styles like death metal and black metal remain subcultural phenomena. Since the mid-1990s, popular styles such as nu metal, which often incorporates elements of grunge and hip hop; and metalcore, which blends extreme metal with hardcore punk, have further expanded the definition of the genre.

Done and done. Next point of contention.

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Posted: 28 February 2011 01:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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surprised ..... LOL

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Posted: 28 February 2011 03:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Nice one, Bees Mom!

socratus - 27 February 2011 11:21 PM
Bees Mom - 27 February 2011 11:01 PM
socratus - 27 February 2011 10:40 AM

The atheist will say : ” There isn’t any God. There is only
big band which destroyed all “D- spaces”

I had no idea Big Band was such a threat. Perhaps we need to stick with heavy metal.

C

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You can tell me that it’s ‘ big bang’ but where
this matter for ‘big bang’ come from?
2 You can tell me that it’s ‘heavy metal’ but where
this ‘heavy metal’ come from?
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On this, cosmology has the answers. As I understand it, matter from the big bang happened as a result of cosmic inflation. In quantum physics, empty space isn’t truly empty; particles and their antiparticles pop into and out of existence all the time. During inflation, space expanded so quickly (faster than the speed of light) that these particles and antiparticles couldn’t cancel each other out when they popped into existence. Now, there happens to be a very slight disparity in how matter and antimatter cancels (as far as I know, finding the reason for this is the current cutting edge of quantum physics) and once inflation ended, the amount of matter that didn’t cancel with antimatter is the matter we see in the universe today.

Heavy metals come from supernovas.

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Posted: 01 March 2011 10:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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SRT: The Essence.
# In his Miracle 1905 Einstein wrote the Fourth paper:
“ On the Electrodynamics of moving Bodies.” ( SRT).
And as a postscript to his forth, the Fifth paper:
“ Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy content?”
As he realized the answer was:
“ Yes, it depends on its energy E= Mc^2.”
It means what SRT must be connected with E= Mc^2 .
It means what must be connection between Lorentz’s
transformation and E= Mc^2.
# The same Einstein’s question in a little detail interpretation:
“Does the inertia of a body ( for example: of light quanta
or of an electron) depend upon its energy content E=Mc^2 ?”

Thinking logically, the answer must be : Yes, it depends.”
But the energy of a quantum of light or of an electron can
be written as E= h*f.
When new question arise: ‘ How is possible to understand the
connection between E=Mc^2 and E= h*f ?’

On my opinion ” The Law of Conservation and Transformation
of Energy/ Mass” (according to one single light quanta /electron )
gives answer to this question..

The problem is that now nobody wants to ask yourself that
„The Law of Conservation and Transformation of Energy/ Mass”
means according to one single light quanta / photon /electron.
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Posted: 02 March 2011 06:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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Are you trying to show how Special Relativity is wrong? If so, you need a bit more research. For starters, in those formulas E=mc^2 and E=hf, each of those variables and constants have units. You want to see the relationship, look at the units. For example, c=299,792,458 m/s. Meters per second are the units associated with the speed of light.

Also, your last statement is logically wrong. First of all, “nobody wants to ask” is simply conspiracy-theory double-talk that means nothing. People do ask, and the answer is simple. E=mc^2 is more generalized than E=hf. The latter applies to electrons and photons as you said, and E=mc^2 applies to all matter and energy. There is no way to go from that to something like “all that exists in the universe are electrons and photons.” All those equations describe is a relationship. Nothing else.

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Posted: 02 March 2011 12:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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Can God be scientist?
Book:
‘The Metaphysical Foundations of Modern Science.’
/ E.A. Burtt. /
==.
Quotes about God as a scientist.
# Page 82.
‘- God is a geometrician in his creative labours- he makes the
world through and through a mathematical system.’
Page 113.
‘ God had created the world of physical existence, for the
purpose that in man, the highest natural end, the whole process
might find its way back to God’
Page 121.
‘ God has made the world of matter such that the pure
mathematical concepts intuited by mind are forever
applicable to it.’
Page 175.
‘ According to Cartesian principles God cannot abolish
extension or the laws of motion.’
# So, maybe God can be scientist.
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Where is God’s house?
Book:
‘The Metaphysical Foundations of Modern Science.’
/ E.A. Burtt. /

Quotes about God and his source.
# Page 27.
‘ But the big puzzles of the modern philosophers are all
concerned with space and time.’
Page 147.
Henry More (1614 – 1687 )  . . .
‘ In the Antidote against Atheism , written prior to 1662,
he (Henry More ) suggested . . . .  that space
is no other than God himself.’
Page 148.
Henry More. . . ‘  . . . . space is itself God . . . . .’
‘ That spiritual object, which we call space,  . . . . . .’
‘ In other words, space is God . . . .’. . . ‘ Space is divine.’
# Isaac Barrow ( 1630- 1677) Newton,s teacher .
Page 155.
‘What is space?
It is impious, Barrow observes, to regard space as a real existence
independent of God; likewise to regard matter as infinitely
extended is contrary to scripture. But, if we discover the proper
relation between space and God, we can truthfully ascribe a real
exiatence to the former. God can create worlds beyond this world,
hence God must extend beyond matter, and it is just this
superabundance of the divine presence and power that we mean by space.’
Page 161.
‘ . . . space would no longer appear independent of the deity.’
Page 260.
‘Absolute space for Newton is not only the omnipresence of God;
it is also the infinite scene of the divine knowledge and control.’
# So, maybe God can have infinite space-house.
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What is situation now?
1.
Now is consider that the Absolute Reference Frame is vacuum
with T=2,7K ( after big bang). But this parameter isn’t constant.
It decreases in time and in the future will reach vacuum: T=0K.
We cannot reach the T=0K.
But maybe God can reach this infinite space and be there.
Maybe God can have infinite mystical house behind the T=0K
2.
This vacuum is full with Dirac’s ‘negative virtual particles’.
This vacuum is full with unseen ‘ dark matter’ and ‘dark energy’.
( They are more than 90% in the Universe)
Nobody knows what there are and therefore the atheists must
not to be very confidence. Maybe God can use these ‘negative
virtual particles’, ‘ dark matter’ and ‘dark energy’ for his work.
==.
If Henry More, Isaac Barrow and Newton were live to-day they
would ask logical question:
How can God, using more than 90% of unseen and unknown
matter in the Universe, create the observant material world?.
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Posted: 06 March 2011 04:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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SRT: The Essence.

SRT is theory about relativity of motion, of every motion (!),
including the motion of quantum of light. (!)
The reason of this motion is spin.
Four physicists discovered spin effect :
Planck, Einstein, Goudsmit and Uhlenbeck.
# Planck explained the spin by formula: h=Et. ( 1900)
# Einstein explained the spin by formula: h=kb. ( 1905)
# Goudsmit and Uhlenbeck wrote the spin by formula:
h = h/ 2pi. (1925)
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How is possible to understand their work?
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Socratus.

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Posted: 06 March 2011 06:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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socratus - 06 March 2011 04:40 AM

How is possible to understand their work?

Through a lot of study and effort. Understanding the details behind that math is no cakewalk.

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