If you want to know about Islam and the relation between Islam and Christianity.
you must read this book , it will let you know more about Islam ,Christianity
and the difference between them ...its an amzing book and this is a part of the book
introduction if you wanna take a look at it before downloading .
The Christian is brought up to believe that his religion is the only true one along
with judaism which is a preparation for Christianity & that all other religions
are false.Even if they find something in another religion resembling something
in their own , instead of feeling happy , they feel discouraged and hasten to
explain it away as due to Christian influnence.
The Muslim, believes in the divine origion of all the divine religions of the world
He declairs that God has raised prophets in every nation to guide the people to the
path of truth. A Muslim must believe in the prophets of all the divine religions.
He may feel sorry to see how Jews and Christians have in part forsaken and altered
the true teaching of Moses and Jesus.
If you want to know about Islam and the relation between Islam and Christianity.
you must read this book , it will let you know more about Islam ,Christianity
and the difference between them ...its an amzing book and this is a part of the book
introduction if you wanna take a look at it before downloading .
The Christian is brought up to believe that his religion is the only true one along
with judaism which is a preparation for Christianity & that all other religions
are false.Even if they find something in another religion resembling something
in their own , instead of feeling happy , they feel discouraged and hasten to
explain it away as due to Christian influnence.
The Muslim, believes in the divine origion of all the divine religions of the world
He declairs that God has raised prophets in every nation to guide the people to the
path of truth. A Muslim must believe in the prophets of all the divine religions.
He may feel sorry to see how Jews and Christians have in part forsaken and altered
the true teaching of Moses and Jesus.
Muslims believe you get 70+ virgins after you die and your own planet. WTF are you going to do with all those virgins? Eventually in the span of eternity you’ll have had your way with all of them that they won’t be virgins anymore. Added to that, what the hell are you going to do with your own planet? Jupiter has a crushing weight and is a giant gas ball. Hopefully you don’t get this one. Or maybe you’ll get Venus where it can reach temperatures up to 800 degrees. I’d say it’s not a really well thought out religion. Can you seriously believe all this?
Muslims believe you get 70+ virgins after you die and your own planet. Does this sound normal to you?
The majority of Muslims don’t actually believe this. That obviously doesn’t make the rest of stuff they believe correct, but I thought this small caveat was important here.
Muslims believe you get 70+ virgins after you die and your own planet. Does this sound normal to you?
The majority of Muslims don’t actually believe this. That obviously doesn’t make the rest of stuff they believe correct, but I thought this small caveat was important here.
So do they just omit that part out of their beliefs regardless of the fact that it’s written in the Quran?
“Margaret Nydell states that mainstream Muslims regard this belief about 72 virgins in the same way that mainstream Christians regard the belief that after death they will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds.”
There are far less fanatics in Islam that you might want to believe.
“Margaret Nydell states that mainstream Muslims regard this belief about 72 virgins in the same way that mainstream Christians regard the belief that after death they will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds.”
There are far less fanatics in Islam that you might want to believe.
So they get to cherry pick what is absolutely true in the Qu’ran and the Bible? How have we gotten to far where so many don’t see a problem with that?
“Margaret Nydell states that mainstream Muslims regard this belief about 72 virgins in the same way that mainstream Christians regard the belief that after death they will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds.”
There are far less fanatics in Islam that you might want to believe.
So they get to cherry pick what is absolutely true in the Qu’ran and the Bible? How have we gotten to far where so many don’t see a problem with that?
I don’t think they think it’s cherry picking. When they don’t agree with what’s written in their Bible, they call a parable.
“Margaret Nydell states that mainstream Muslims regard this belief about 72 virgins in the same way that mainstream Christians regard the belief that after death they will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds.”
There are far less fanatics in Islam that you might want to believe.
What do “mainstream” Christians think happens after death? What do “mainstream” Muslims think happens?
George, wouldn’t you say that you committed the critical thinking error of Tu Quo Que (you do it too) when, in answer to E-M’s criticism of some Islamic beliefs, you pointed out similar in Christian beliefs?
While many intelligent, well read theists pick and choose from among the myriad things written in the bible and the quaran, many others who haven’t even read or thought about the crazy parts are sure that those books are completely and entirely true. And a fair percent of this latter are willing to be led into acting on those false parts. We may accept the more rational theists, but we do have to worry about the ones who aren’t rational.
George, wouldn’t you say that you committed the critical thinking error of Tu Quo Que (you do it too) when, in answer to E-M’s criticism of some Islamic beliefs, you pointed out similar in Christian beliefs?
Sorry, Occam, I don’t understand your question.
Occam. - 05 January 2011 05:48 PM
And a fair percent of this latter are willing to be led into acting on those false parts.
How much is a “fair percent”? I have read a few books lately on this topic and I think I now have a pretty good idea (or certainly much clearer one than I used to) as to what role Islam plays in terrorism.
Would you be surprised if I told you that a mere one percent of madrasahs support jihad and the rest firmly oppose it? Did you know that none of the 9/11 terrorists nor the Madrid bombers attended madrasahs in their childhood (contrarily to what Dawkins might claim in The God Delusion)?
Every atheist (and more so an atheist who happens to be also a scientist like yourself, Occam) who is tempted to criticize the Muslims owes it to himself and to those he wishes to attack to investigate this issue properly. If you’d like, I can recommend a few books.
First, sorry George. I should have gone back to the post I was responding to. You didn’t say that; you were quoting Margaret Nydell who made that comparison.
Second, possibly I should have said “a small percent”, however, I didn’t say that they would all become terrorists, just that they would act on the false parts. I tthink we can find many examples of religious people behaving irrationally, or at least inefficiently, based on false statements in their religious documents.
..the Kook in Oakland, CA for instance. He has been predicting the end of the world for about 30 years now. He is a well known Oakland kook. His dates go by, and the followers are invariably disappointed. He comes up with a reason and sets another date. I can’t figure out how he keeps his sheeple following him. The new difference is the internet. Now he has exposure and followers worldwide. May 21 will come and go, just as all of the other dates, and his sheeple will be breathlessly awaiting his next date. Go figure.
Sarah , How about a nice introduction about yourself first ?
Yes, Sarah, welcome to CFI. I admit my limited knowledge of Islam and the Qu’ran, so I look forward to your input. Don’t be discouraged by what may appear to be harsh criticism.
Phi, may I take this belated opportunity to also welcome you to CFI. I have enjoyed your contributions to the various discussions.
I should like to see what either of you feel is the most compelling reason for Islam to be a perfection of the Judeo/Christian religions and other theist philosophies.
