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Posted: 30 January 2011 05:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Write4U - 30 January 2011 04:31 PM

And what do you suggest Obama “should do”......?

Obama is very worried.  At this point, he doesn’t know who to bow to!  He certainly can’t visit the region, his teleprompter might get broken in the riots and he wouldn’t be able to string two words together without it.  All the better he doesn’t do anything, he’s so stupid he probably thinks they speak Pryamidese in Egypt.

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Posted: 30 January 2011 05:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Rocinante - 30 January 2011 05:08 PM
Write4U - 30 January 2011 04:31 PM

And what do you suggest Obama “should do”......?

Obama is very worried.  At this point, he doesn’t know who to bow to!  He certainly can’t visit the region, his teleprompter might get broken in the riots and he wouldn’t be able to string two words together without it.  All the better he doesn’t do anything, he’s so stupid he probably thinks they speak Pryamidese in Egypt.

Name a Republican who has a better idea.

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Posted: 30 January 2011 05:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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garythehuman - 30 January 2011 05:02 PM

An unscientific observation.
I have been attempting to follow these developments on television.  When I tuned into CNN I got correspondents on the ground, Wolf Blitzer interviewing the Egyptian ambassador to the US etc.  When I clicked over to FOX to get their slant, their headline news was talking about a US military exercise, what are the best Buffalo wings to serve at your Super Bowl party, complaining about the lack of phosphates in dish soap.  The closest I heard on Fox to any analysis was one quick sarcastic remark about Joe Biden’s statement supporting Hosni Mubarak at the beginning of the crisis.  What’s with this?

Don’t use the Television, unless you use Al Jezeera, GRIT TV, of RT .

USE the Pacifica Radio stations.

http://www.kpfk.org  of Los Angeles
has many public affairs programs, in the evening and early morning weekdays and Sunday am.
the programs are archived on the web site.
VERY informative.

http://archive.kpfk.org/parchive/

Also, NRP has been pretty good. The broadcast news of the hoax that the under cover police tried to pull off making it look as though the demonstrators tried to loot the antiquities museums.

Gary

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Posted: 30 January 2011 05:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Rocinante - 30 January 2011 05:08 PM
Write4U - 30 January 2011 04:31 PM

And what do you suggest Obama “should do”......?

Obama is very worried.  At this point, he doesn’t know who to bow to!  He certainly can’t visit the region, his teleprompter might get broken in the riots and he wouldn’t be able to string two words together without it.  All the better he doesn’t do anything, he’s so stupid he probably thinks they speak Pryamidese in Egypt.


Wow. Yeah, it’s all Obama’s fault. Certainly not the previous adminstration’s for all the political manipulation they did in the area.

Definitely, Obama has failed to address many of the things he said he would when elected, but you seem to put an inordinate amount of blame on him alone. Weren’t you also blaming all the bailouts on him somewhere in here as well? Despite the common knowledge that that was a Bush plan?

At this point, you’re almost looking like a troll to me. Where is your proof of such a lack of intelligence on his part, that he thinks they speak “Pryamidese in Egypt”?

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Posted: 30 January 2011 05:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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garythehuman - 30 January 2011 05:02 PM

An unscientific observation.
I have been attempting to follow these developments on television.  When I tuned into CNN I got correspondents on the ground, Wolf Blitzer interviewing the Egyptian ambassador to the US etc.  When I clicked over to FOX to get their slant, their headline news was talking about a US military exercise, what are the best Buffalo wings to serve at your Super Bowl party, complaining about the lack of phosphates in dish soap.  The closest I heard on Fox to any analysis was one quick sarcastic remark about Joe Biden’s statement supporting Hosni Mubarak at the beginning of the crisis.  What’s with this?

Don’t use the Television, unless you use Al Jezeera, GRIT TV, of RT .

Gary

The Egyptian govt shut down Al Jazeera in Cairo today.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/201113085252994161.html

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Posted: 30 January 2011 05:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Is Democracy erupting in Egypt?
Thom discusses the situation in Egypt with Nick Baumann, Mother Jones, Dr. Radwan Masmoudi, Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, and Adel Iskandar, Center for Contemporary Arab Studies - Georgetown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZYb34QuPtA&feature=uploademail

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Posted: 30 January 2011 06:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Bees Mom - 30 January 2011 05:07 PM
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asanta - 30 January 2011 12:56 AM

The USA is, and has always been, a Republic.

Exactly! smile

Is there a practical difference between the terms Democracy and Republic? IMO, to say we are a democratic republic, would be redundant.

Democracy
n., pl., -cies.

  1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
  2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
  3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
  4. Majority rule.
  5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.

Republic
n.

  1.
      1. A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president.
      2. A nation that has such a political order.
  2.
      1. A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
      2. A nation that has such a political order.

I do say there is a difference yes. I think under a real democracy, there would not be such a power imbalance. In a republic the body of citizens entitled to vote does not have to include everyone, and I would say that that represents a fundamental difference, especially in the states, where so many are divorced from the electoral process or from running their own candidates. Of course, I am in the camp that believes that when the founding fathers wrote the preamble, that all men are created equal, they meant all property owning, white men.


What’s more, there are great differences in types of democracy. Switzerland, for example, is a Direct Democracy. I would like to see a Socialist Democracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_types_of_democracy

PS. from the other Gary, who is also a Humanist.
A Republic is a representative form of government, not a direct democracy.
Heck, in the USA, we’ve even had an un-elected supreme court choose our President, let alone an Electoral College.
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Posted: 30 January 2011 08:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Bee’s Mom, Rocinante is not a troll, he’s just a horse’s ass. Hence the screen name.

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Posted: 30 January 2011 08:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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DarronS - 30 January 2011 08:18 PM

Bee’s Mom, Rocinante is not a troll, he’s just a horse’s ass. Hence the screen name.

The two so often go hand-in-hand. :/ Pretty much all the other regulars seem so calm and nice, but Rocinante has a very nasty streak.

Thank you for clarifying.

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Posted: 30 January 2011 08:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Yeah, well, I have a nasty streak too. But I’m getting better. cool smile

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Posted: 30 January 2011 11:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Bees Mom - 30 January 2011 08:36 PM
DarronS - 30 January 2011 08:18 PM

Bee’s Mom, Rocinante is not a troll, he’s just a horse’s ass. Hence the screen name.

The two so often go hand-in-hand. :/ Pretty much all the other regulars seem so calm and nice, but Rocinante has a very nasty streak.

Thank you for clarifying.

...and he has a vitriolic hatred for anything related to Obama..

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Posted: 31 January 2011 05:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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garythehuman - 30 January 2011 05:16 PM

Name a Republican who has a better idea.

I can’t.  But I can name someone who is committing a Tu Quoque Logical Fallacy and a False Dilemma Logical Fallacy.

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Posted: 31 January 2011 05:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Bees Mom - 30 January 2011 05:21 PM

At this point, you’re almost looking like a troll to me.

My skeptical credentials cannot be questioned.  My personal SI collection goes all the way back to when it was the smaller size.  My library of skeptical books is larger than any bookstore this side of Prometheus Books.  But the instant I apply the same logic, rational thinking and skepticism to one of liberals’ biggest sacred cows, they let fly with the Ad Hominems! 

Bees Mom - 30 January 2011 05:21 PM

Where is your proof of such a lack of intelligence on his part, that he thinks they speak “Pryamidese in Egypt”?

That was obviously a sarcastic jab at Obama’s idiotic statement about a non-existent language he honestly thought they spoke in another country.

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Posted: 31 January 2011 06:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Rocinante - 31 January 2011 05:27 AM
Bees Mom - 30 January 2011 05:21 PM

At this point, you’re almost looking like a troll to me.

My skeptical credentials cannot be questioned.  My personal SI collection goes all the way back to when it was the smaller size.  My library of skeptical books is larger than any bookstore this side of Prometheus Books.  But the instant I apply the same logic, rational thinking and skepticism to one of liberals’ biggest sacred cows, they let fly with the Ad Hominems! 

Bees Mom - 30 January 2011 05:21 PM

Where is your proof of such a lack of intelligence on his part, that he thinks they speak “Pryamidese in Egypt”?

That was obviously a sarcastic jab at Obama’s idiotic statement about a non-existent language he honestly thought they spoke in another country.

Reference?
Even if Obame misspoke, what do you find idiotic about him? His lack of schooling? His lack of compassion? His calm and reasoned demeanor.  Where do you find indications of an “idiot”?  It is not your sincerity, but your lack of proportion that I am taking issue with.
Bush was an idiot. And there is plenty of evidence.

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Posted: 31 January 2011 06:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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I should also mention that he is on my ignore list. I’ll read his posts on other subjects, but when it comes to politics, he just rants on about Obama to the point I can swear I see spittle emerging from my computer screen. So, to avoid installing windshield wipers on my screen, I just ignore him.

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