There is no need for something to come from nothing. You have to first prove there was a time there was nothing. Maybe there has always been something. Your assumption of starting with nothing begs the question. You know what I mean? It assume a point where nothing existed. We may not be able to comprehend an eternal universe, that doesn’t mean we can automatically assume this universe started from nothing. We may end back up as a singularity have another big bang and the process repeats forever.
I am glad you agree something can’t come from nothing so we can move onto the fact that if the universe always existed, then you would have happened already, having had an eternity to do so. I am not starting with nothing, but responding to atheists who say something comes from nothing by showing them why it is not possible, so that is a false reason for them being atheists.
It maybe be uncomfortable that we don’t know what existed prior to the big bang, and you are free to believe whatever cause you wish until it’s proven to you otherwise but our lack of knowledge does not prove God. It only prove we don’t know everything.
Dreams and visions were accepted as real events and occurrences. People claim to see Jesus now in various patterns in potato chips etc. The mind fills in to provide an image from our expectations. Paul experienced such a vision and accepted the reality of the experience. He even points out heavenly bodies are different from flesh. Likely he was relying on his vision. You are relying on what different people saw. They may have all seen different things and assumed it to fulfill their expectation of Jesus. A vision, a dream, a glimpse of someone in the crowd that looked like Jesus. You maybe able to gather 500 people who claim to have seen Elvis alive, and they really believe it.
We do know what happened before the big bang, God did it, since nature can’t come from nothing nor always have existed, so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, and this is whom we call the uncreated Creator or God.
A potato chip does not constitute a real living breathing person who walks and talks and whom you can touch that the disciples experienced. And group hallucinations are impossible according to modern psychology (DM-4 manual), that includes group visions and group dreams. People hallucinate differently, never the same. No filling-in can account for these 12 differen group settings, nor expectations. Actually the disciples had no expectations. They were changed from doubters to bold proclaimers when they saw the risen Jesus. Even Paul had an objective experience because those with him also saw the light and the man and heard the voice as they fell to the ground but didn’t understand the words. Paul was miraculously blinded for 3 days. Nothing can account for this naturalisticlally as well as his return to sight as Jesus predicted.
Spirit beings are spirits. We are soulical beings with physical bodies in the flesh. Spirits have bodies too, but they are not in the flesh. We too will have heavenly bodies just like ours except they can never die like Jesus was resurrected could never die again, an could use His body to do amazing things like walk through walls.
The person they were up close and personal with for 40 days is the same person they were with for 3 years, so that’s silly they wouldn’t know who He was.
Nobody seems to care about Elvis enough to check his grave with all the Elvis impersonators. Let me know if you find the kind of testimony we have in the Bible for Jesus that you pretend exists for Elvis. Moreover, Elvis is not a religio-historical figure to explain life. He was a fat bastard, drug induced and committed suicide.
What if you are wrong? You are relying on a specific interpretation of events of 2000 years ago. What if Paul, though meaning well, was a false prophet? Paul wrote some letters true to his own understanding. You maybe leading people astray from what Jesus taught by relying on them. You have no way to verify Paul spoke for God. Christianity teaches an interpretation of the new testament which it has no real authority to teach. You accept it because you’ve been exposed constantly though one means or another since you were young and never thought to question it. You might be just as sure of the truth of Islam if you had been born to different parents because your expectations of what God is would fit the Muslim ideology.
It is 100% proven. No human being has ever been able to find a naturalistic explanation for the origin of the disciples’ beliefs. Paul died for his beliefs. People don’t willingly die for what they know is a lie. So he really spent 15 days with Peter and talked about the resurrection and Paul recounted the creedal form of the gospel with Peter, James and John in 1 Cor. 15, Gal. 1 & 2. They had nothing to add unto him.
All the books of the NT agree perfectly with the OT too for the Messiah came to atone for sins (Is. 53) and to show no man could keep the law but God Himself, Christ Jesus, the 2nd Person of the Trinity. When I was young nobody taught me about Jesus, I never gave him a thought, none in my family were Christians and still not. I was born again January, 2001 at the age of 33. If I was born in Islam I would ask the question, since there is no evidence Jesus didn’t die on the cross, then some guy in a cave six centuries later is not going to change that, therefore, how can Islam be true?
You can believe as you wish but whatever you accept as true you should justify with real physical evidence as best you can. Not the claims of a religion who makes claims that fulfill your expectations for God.
Since you can’t find a naturalistic explanation for the origin of the disciples’ beliefs, and you can’t overturn the fact you would have happened already if there was an infinite regress, then realize you are living a lie. Evidence doesn’t mean anything to you.
Up to you to question and validate what you think you know. You don’t have to accept any scientific claim that you can’t justify and validate for yourself. Why would you accept any religions claims that you haven’t validated for yourself.
You validate my faith and disprove your own because you can’t solve these problems I present to you with your faith. Science proves God and that Jesus is God (Rom. 1.20). Since God would be an accessible God, you only got 3 choices: 1) we already proved Islam wrong; 2) Hinduism is wrong because Brahma is considered amoral, but how can God’s standards be below our own?; 3) hence, Christianity is it!
Bring people back to life, drive out demons, cure the sick. Do something to validate what you believe. Then go forth with some authority on what you speak. Otherwise don’t expect what you claim or the various claims of different Christian beliefs to carry any weight.
My faith is validated when you are unable to solve these problems of your faith and hostility towards Christianity. This is the authority I have, and I use it to lead people to Christ.
“If you search for him with all your heart and soul, you will find him” (Deut. 4.29). “You will seek me and find me; when you seek me with all your heart” (Jer. 29.13).