Proof of God in a manmade Bible?
Posted: 07 February 2011 12:59 PM   [ Ignore ]
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noselfwilling - 05 February 2011 03:29 AM

The New 4 Step Proof for God of the Bible

There is this scholar that has written some excellent books regarding the development of the Bible. 
Professor Elaine Pagels:

  * Beyond Belief: The Secret Gospel of Thomas (Random House 2003)
  * The Gnostic Gospels (Random House, 1979)
  * The Origin of Satan (Random House, 1995)
  * Adam, Eve and the Serpent (Random House, 1988)

The website includes links to many shorter articles and interviews
with the Harrington Spear Paine Professor of Religion at Princeton University.
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In the end it comes down to belief. 
I for one know that when I randomly open up the Bible and start reading a few chapters I am consistently repulsed by its zenophobia {that’s not really the right word… hostility toward anything not of their own tribe}, and its self adulation. 

It says don’t worship idols - then creates a worship starved idol of itself.  People are treated in the most hideous ways imaginable, all in the name of this God that is little more than a selfish spoiled bastard. 

When I step back and think about it, dang if that Bible/religion don’t look absolutely like something very smart, though petty power lusting, people would create to control, organize and utilize the masses.  It is a human political machine. 

To seriously believe that any of us petty humans has a prayer of Knowing God, or understanding His Word is merely the greatest ego trip imaginable.

I believe you have coupled with your God so emotionally because your ego needs it.
Look at this Creation around us in its entirety. If God is in any way real, then God is spread out amongst all of that Creation - where do people get off thinking God would expect, or even care about, their obsession?  yea, yea i know the book told you so.

Yet, if there is a God he is about time and creation, and once in an eternity a spark of life - such as on this fantastical planet we live on. 
Think about it, God gave you your spark of life & time here on Earth, to be part of her/his creation, that means: to be present to this Earth and this one life that you have been blessed with…


Oh I don’t know, sort of got lost in words there.  Basically, even if there is a God he/she is way, way bigger than any of our little people brains could ever fathom.  This ego fueled faith in the Bible is a self-created security blanket.

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Posted: 07 February 2011 05:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I read The Gnostic Gospels (Random House, 1979) decades ago.

Knowing about that stuff makes watching The Matrix more interesting.

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psikeyhackr - 07 February 2011 05:17 PM

I read The Gnostic Gospels (Random House, 1979) decades ago.

Knowing about that stuff makes watching The Matrix more interesting.

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But not the sequels, right? There’s no hope for them?

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Posted: 07 February 2011 06:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Interesting how many stories they get out that series.  Just as many as Star Trek has, but Capt. Kirk has had more resurrections.  LOL

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Mriana - 07 February 2011 06:43 PM

Interesting how many stories they get out that series.  Just as many as Star Trek has, but Capt. Kirk has had more resurrections.  LOL

Hmm… I don’t recall Captain Kirk ever dying. Spock on the other hand… wink

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citizenschallenge.pm - 07 February 2011 12:59 PM


When I step back and think about it, dang if that Bible/religion don’t look absolutely like something very smart, though petty power lusting, people would create to control, organize and utilize the masses.  It is a human political machine. 

It’s part of Marx’s superstructure for that reason.

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When I step back and think about it, dang if that Bible/religion don’t look absolutely like something very smart, though petty power lusting, people would create to control, organize and utilize the masses.  It is a human political machine. 

It’s part of Marx’s superstructure for that reason.

The church understood Machiavelli a long time ago.

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When I step back and think about it, dang if that Bible/religion don’t look absolutely like something very smart, though petty power lusting, people would create to control, organize and utilize the masses.  It is a human political machine. 

It’s part of Marx’s superstructure for that reason.

The church understood Machiavelli a long time ago.

Amen

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There was an episode of Skepticality a while back that hypothesized that The Prince was actually satire. I thought it was an interesting angle.

(It’s episode 76 on the iTunes Music Store.)

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psikeyhackr - 07 February 2011 05:17 PM

I read The Gnostic Gospels (Random House, 1979) decades ago.

Knowing about that stuff makes watching The Matrix more interesting.

psik

But not the sequels, right? There’s no hope for them?

Oh, I think #2 was good.  #3 failed because of the Zion battle scenes; otherwise the content was actually decent.

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