Messianic holiness of evangelical’s Dear Leader Trump
Posted: 14 May 2018 06:11 AM   [ Ignore ]
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One for the road. . .

OY VEY! Judge Jeanine on FOX News Says Donald Trump ‘Fulfilled the Biblical Prophecy of the Gods’

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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/13/1764087/-OY-VEY-Judge-Jeanine-on-FOX-News-Says-Donald-Trump-Fulfilled-the-Biblical-Prophecy-of-the-Gods

“Donald Trump sent Iranians, who are the descendants of Persia, a message to reflect on their own history, and that it was the king of Persia who, 1000 years before Mohammad was even born, said that Jerusalem was the capital of the Jewish people’s country.

“There will be no Ottoman empires or Shia nations that will destroy Jerusalem any longer.  Donald Trump recognized history. He, like King Cyrus before him, fulfilled the biblical prophecy of the gods worshiped by Jews, Christians and, yes, Muslims, that Jerusalem is the eternal capital of the Jewish state and that the Jewish people deserve a righteous, free and sovereign Israel.”

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Posted: 14 May 2018 06:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Oh and that God they are talking about, lets get that straight, it is the God of their EGOs they so blindly embrace!

APRIL 14, 2018
notes 4/14/18 - Of Hope - and evangelical patriarchy’s victimization complex.
https://confrontingsciencecontrarians.blogspot.com/2018/04/of-hope-v-evangelical-patriarchy-trump.html

Intellectually Confronting Faith-Based thinking and Dogma Driven Deceptions
https://confrontingsciencecontrarians.blogspot.com/2018/04/intellectually-confronting-faithbased.html

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Posted: 14 May 2018 11:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Nothing what refers to Ottoman empire is Biblical. It took several centuries after New Testament was completed for Islam to appear, and then few more centuries until Byzantian Empire collapsed.

thats just utter nonsense.

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Posted: 14 May 2018 07:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Offler - 14 May 2018 11:38 AM

Nothing what refers to Ottoman empire is Biblical. It took several centuries after New Testament was completed for Islam to appear, and then few more centuries until Byzantian Empire collapsed.

thats just utter nonsense.

Think you’re missing the point. 
Which isn’t accuracy, come on, isn’t that trump’s trump card in any event.  :red:
The point is evangelicals who are treating trump like he’s the messiah, rather than a self-promoter and serial liar.

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Posted: 15 May 2018 03:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 14 May 2018 07:31 PM
Offler - 14 May 2018 11:38 AM

Nothing what refers to Ottoman empire is Biblical. It took several centuries after New Testament was completed for Islam to appear, and then few more centuries until Byzantian Empire collapsed.

thats just utter nonsense.

Think you’re missing the point. 
Which isn’t accuracy, come one that isn’t trump’s trump card in any event.
The point is evangelicals who are treating trump like he’s the messiah, rather than a self-promoter and serial liar.

I think they and pundits are missing the point. I doubt drumpf cares one bit about the embassy, about the evangelicals, etc. He cares about deflecting attention away from his own problems. Remember when Hurricane Maria hit, and news got out that the white house was relieved to have something other than themselves as the center of attention? This embassy move is the same thing. The WH knew what would happen, the conflicts. For them it’s just the thing to deflect attention. And if anyone DOES want to turn attention back, they can always say, as they’re already doing with this supposed summit with North Korea…hey why are you focusing on that witch hunt when we have such other big things to talk about.

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Posted: 15 May 2018 09:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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CuthbertJ - 15 May 2018 03:03 PM
Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 14 May 2018 07:31 PM
Offler - 14 May 2018 11:38 AM

Nothing what refers to Ottoman empire is Biblical. It took several centuries after New Testament was completed for Islam to appear, and then few more centuries until Byzantian Empire collapsed.

thats just utter nonsense.

Think you’re missing the point. 
Which isn’t accuracy, come on, isn’t that trump’s trump card in any event.
The point is evangelicals who are treating trump like he’s the messiah, rather than a self-promoter and serial liar.

I think they and pundits are missing the point. I doubt drumpf cares one bit about the embassy, about the evangelicals, etc. He cares about deflecting attention away from his own problems. Remember when Hurricane Maria hit, and news got out that the white house was relieved to have something other than themselves as the center of attention? This embassy move is the same thing. The WH knew what would happen, the conflicts. For them it’s just the thing to deflect attention. And if anyone DOES want to turn attention back, they can always say, as they’re already doing with this supposed summit with North Korea…hey why are you focusing on that witch hunt when we have such other big things to talk about.

No doubt.  But the sheople out there, that’s another story.

I’m trying to wrap my head around over a third of this nation fully embracing him, or anyone like him.

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Posted: 16 May 2018 10:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 15 May 2018 09:40 PM
CuthbertJ - 15 May 2018 03:03 PM
Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 14 May 2018 07:31 PM
Offler - 14 May 2018 11:38 AM

Nothing what refers to Ottoman empire is Biblical. It took several centuries after New Testament was completed for Islam to appear, and then few more centuries until Byzantian Empire collapsed.

thats just utter nonsense.

Think you’re missing the point. 
Which isn’t accuracy, come on, isn’t that trump’s trump card in any event.
The point is evangelicals who are treating trump like he’s the messiah, rather than a self-promoter and serial liar.

I think they and pundits are missing the point. I doubt drumpf cares one bit about the embassy, about the evangelicals, etc. He cares about deflecting attention away from his own problems. Remember when Hurricane Maria hit, and news got out that the white house was relieved to have something other than themselves as the center of attention? This embassy move is the same thing. The WH knew what would happen, the conflicts. For them it’s just the thing to deflect attention. And if anyone DOES want to turn attention back, they can always say, as they’re already doing with this supposed summit with North Korea…hey why are you focusing on that witch hunt when we have such other big things to talk about.

No doubt.  But the sheople out there, that’s another story.

I’m trying to wrap my head around over a third of this nation fully embracing him, or anyone like him.

I actually think in the end this will all be for the best. It’s showing what a vast group of americans really are, even the so called moderate ones. They used to be able to hide they’re bigotry and hate, but now it’s open for all to see, especially the white evangelicals.

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Posted: 16 May 2018 04:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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CuthbertJ - 16 May 2018 10:13 AM

I actually think in the end this will all be for the best. It’s showing what a vast group of americans really are, even the so called moderate ones. They used to be able to hide they’re bigotry and hate, but now it’s open for all to see, especially the white evangelicals.

True enough.
But that brings us into the terror zone, when seeing trumps approval inching up 42%, that’s a lot more than a third.

As a German/American with both parents witness to Germany’s transition during the 30s,
it takes my breath away the ease with which cornerstones of America’s civil society are be discarded,
in favor of the ruthless drive for self enrichment.

I mean even the have-nots that are being hurt the most, seem to embrace trump’s American’s New Dream
riches beyond avarice for the ruthless, disregard for everyone else (whom they see as the blood sucking humanity).

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Posted: 17 May 2018 01:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 14 May 2018 07:31 PM
Offler - 14 May 2018 11:38 AM

Nothing what refers to Ottoman empire is Biblical. It took several centuries after New Testament was completed for Islam to appear, and then few more centuries until Byzantian Empire collapsed.

thats just utter nonsense.

Think you’re missing the point. 
Which isn’t accuracy, come on, isn’t that trump’s trump card in any event.  :red:
The point is evangelicals who are treating trump like he’s the messiah, rather than a self-promoter and serial liar.

Well, thats my way of saying “well thats bs”. I would rather challenge someone of speaking non-accurate, if not completely untrue claims while it seems I kept my own decency and I did not attacked someones dignity. Actually the proclamatkon made, and then refused in that manner might prevent that lady from making such bold claims in the future.

Thats my impression that some people - like that lady or Donald Trump - were not confronted with any opposing opinion publicly.

And actually this is something i miss in most human interactions. People do rely a lot on impressions and emotions, and much less with a fact. Being the guy who comes to the party where everyone is happy speaking out his mind, and you start to correct them = well you destroy the party… :)

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Posted: 17 May 2018 05:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Offler - 17 May 2018 01:45 AM

Well, thats my way of saying “well thats bs”.

Not sure what you are saying there.

Is it that vast percentage of evangelicals - actually forgive and support trump despite all his transgressions?

Is it that we are supposed to pretend that trump isn’t a serial liar with the mentality of self-obsessed child?

Is it that we are only supposed to say soothing things to others, things that don’t upset their wrong headed fantasies (that would be in denial of physical realities)?

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Posted: 17 May 2018 10:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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If you challenge the obvious public lies with facts, it has effect of affecting the trust towards that public person (if it gets enough attention) and he will refrain of making such stupid proclamations.

Its actually the worst thing you can do - to damage “credibility” of someone who clearly did not had enough feedback.

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Posted: 17 May 2018 06:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Offler - 17 May 2018 10:48 AM

If you challenge the obvious public lies with facts, it has effect of affecting the trust towards that public person (if it gets enough attention) and he will refrain of making such stupid proclamations.

Its actually the worst thing you can do - to damage “credibility” of someone who clearly did not had enough feedback.

Still not following you.

it’s the “worst thing” ??? - Seems to me, obviously demonstrable lies are being accepted right and left - just have to look at then pathetic dead-end public discourse.

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Posted: 18 May 2018 01:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 - 17 May 2018 06:55 PM
Offler - 17 May 2018 10:48 AM

If you challenge the obvious public lies with facts, it has effect of affecting the trust towards that public person (if it gets enough attention) and he will refrain of making such stupid proclamations.

Its actually the worst thing you can do - to damage “credibility” of someone who clearly did not had enough feedback.

Still not following you.

it’s the “worst thing” ??? - Seems to me, obviously demonstrable lies are being accepted right and left - just have to look at then pathetic dead-end public discourse.

Well then you are getting it. If you demonstrate that some claim is a lie, it will “break the spell of the moment”. But such confrontation with reality and facts have to be more constant as are people used to.

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Posted: 18 May 2018 02:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Offler - 18 May 2018 01:06 AM

Well then you are getting it. If you demonstrate that some claim is a lie, it will “break the spell of the moment”.

I used to believe that wholeheartedly - but the years have shown me that in all too many instances truth doesn’t mean a damned thing.
Hell look at the whole Jesus is the Only Way to Heaven insanity just for starters.
Or if you really want to get into to it, look at the lunatic public/political dialogue about Earth Sciences, manmade global warming, limits to growth.  Or a global economic imperative that glorifies maximizing profits, minimizing externalities and believing endless growth is desirable, necessary - rather than recognizing this strategy for the self-cannibalization that it is.

Offler - 18 May 2018 01:06 AM

But such confrontation with reality and facts have to be more constant as are people used to.

I don’t know if it’s my thick skull or your grammar, but here again, I don’t understand what you are trying to say.

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Posted: 19 May 2018 02:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I am not very familiar in using english idioms, so sometimes I directly translate something which does not have meaning in english…

Be persistent.

I started to challenge a crazy guy who says that “Eu wants to destroy the traditional family”. I started to mention that he gets his anti-gay, anti-abortionist politics directly from crazy catholic doctrine - which can be considered a step against our constitution. (Not the american one, the slovak one).

You maybe heard about Cardinal Trujillo. Local anti-abortionists channelled his agenda,  4 years after he died. He was really prolific in telling lies. Like condoms dont prevent HIV, or that UN is infested by “gender feminists”.

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Offler - 14 May 2018 11:38 AM

Nothing what refers to Ottoman empire is Biblical. It took several centuries after New Testament was completed for Islam to appear, and then few more centuries until Byzantian Empire collapsed.

thats just utter nonsense.

Think you’re missing the point. 
Which isn’t accuracy, come on, isn’t that trump’s trump card in any event.
The point is evangelicals who are treating trump like he’s the messiah, rather than a self-promoter and serial liar.

I think they and pundits are missing the point. I doubt drumpf cares one bit about the embassy, about the evangelicals, etc. He cares about deflecting attention away from his own problems. Remember when Hurricane Maria hit, and news got out that the white house was relieved to have something other than themselves as the center of attention? This embassy move is the same thing. The WH knew what would happen, the conflicts. For them it’s just the thing to deflect attention. And if anyone DOES want to turn attention back, they can always say, as they’re already doing with this supposed summit with North Korea…hey why are you focusing on that witch hunt when we have such other big things to talk about.

No doubt.  But the sheople out there, that’s another story.

I’m trying to wrap my head around over a third of this nation fully embracing him, or anyone like him.

I actually think in the end this will all be for the best. It’s showing what a vast group of americans really are, even the so called moderate ones. They used to be able to hide they’re bigotry and hate, but now it’s open for all to see, especially the white evangelicals.

That’s what happens when a Fascist is elected to the presidency.

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