How do you own a piece of reality?
Posted: 31 May 2018 01:19 PM   [ Ignore ]
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It was something that I heard mentioned at one point and it has bothered me ever since. It’s like how do we rationalize owning any part of reality? What right or claim do we really have to anything and how can we say that something is “mine”?

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Posted: 31 May 2018 01:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Titanomachina - 31 May 2018 01:19 PM

It was something that I heard mentioned at one point and it has bothered me ever since. It’s like how do we rationalize owning any part of reality? What right or claim do we really have to anything and how can we say that something is “mine”?

Its a social thing. You marked some item as yours, and others do respect that.

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Posted: 31 May 2018 02:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Capitalism. Made up for people who want power.

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Posted: 31 May 2018 03:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Titanomachina - 31 May 2018 01:19 PM

It was something that I heard mentioned at one point and it has bothered me ever since. It’s like how do we rationalize owning any part of reality? What right or claim do we really have to anything and how can we say that something is “mine”?

Its a social thing. You marked some item as yours, and others do respect that.

Seconded.

Owning things is part of human nature.

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Posted: 01 June 2018 09:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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A local Indian said, man walks as far as he can, plants a flag and claims everything from there back to his home country as belonging to his king. Why does he do that? It means nothing to me.

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Lausten - 01 June 2018 09:06 AM

A local Indian said, man walks as far as he can, plants a flag and claims everything from there back to his home country as belonging to his king. Why does he do that? It means nothing to me.

Indians believed in ownership.

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Posted: 01 June 2018 09:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Lausten - 01 June 2018 09:06 AM

A local Indian said, man walks as far as he can, plants a flag and claims everything from there back to his home country as belonging to his king. Why does he do that? It means nothing to me.

Indians believed in ownership.

Oh that settles it.

Can you tell us about Indians and their attitudes towards ownership?  Or material goods and such?

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Posted: 02 June 2018 11:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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A local Indian said, man walks as far as he can, plants a flag and claims everything from there back to his home country as belonging to his king. Why does he do that? It means nothing to me.

Indians believed in ownership.

Oh that settles it.

Can you tell us about Indians and their attitudes towards ownership?  Or material goods and such?

He was Lakota, but I can’t tell you there entire history and culture.

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Posted: 02 June 2018 11:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Lausten - 02 June 2018 11:24 AM
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Lausten - 01 June 2018 09:06 AM

A local Indian said, man walks as far as he can, plants a flag and claims everything from there back to his home country as belonging to his king. Why does he do that? It means nothing to me.

Indians believed in ownership.

Oh that settles it.

Can you tell us about Indians and their attitudes towards ownership?  Or material goods and such?

He was Lakota, but I can’t tell you there entire history and culture.

I wound up thinking about Indians a bunch last night.
What all of us need to remember is that with something like this, definitions are critically important.
Which Indians, during what period in their history, etc.

Seems to me of course Indians had a sense of ownership, even hierarchy, and accumulating “wealth” and power among the elite and all that jazz.
yet, there is a fundamental difference between western sense of ownership and that which more simple Earth bound peoples possessed.

The history of western exploration, expansion, colonization is mind boggling ... recently been getting more familiar with SALT and all its glorious aspects and here I run out of time . . .  later.

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Posted: 02 June 2018 04:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Lausten - 01 June 2018 09:06 AM

A local Indian said, man walks as far as he can, plants a flag and claims everything from there back to his home country as belonging to his king. Why does he do that? It means nothing to me.

Reminds a bit about countries. As a kid I wondered about them when looking at a globe and thinking what makes a country exist beside a line on a map?

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Posted: 02 June 2018 06:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Lausten - 01 June 2018 09:06 AM

A local Indian said, man walks as far as he can, plants a flag and claims everything from there back to his home country as belonging to his king. Why does he do that? It means nothing to me.

Reminds a bit about countries. As a kid I wondered about them when looking at a globe and thinking what makes a country exist beside a line on a map?

You are quite the thinker. Dark Side of the Moon was a big influence on me, “the generals decide and the lines on the map they move from side to side”

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