9th Circuit Rules State Cannot Mandate Faith-Based Addiciton Treatment
Posted: 28 November 2007 05:41 PM   [ Ignore ]
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HERE is a link to an article regarding the ruling. Hope it never gets to the Supreme Court, which I suspect would disagree with the 9th CIrcuit.


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Posted: 29 November 2007 07:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Thanks, mckenzievmd….....

This is good news. Bravo to the Buddhist. Personally, I had become aware of this problem and found the situation extremely difficult to deal with. Throughout my dealings with people with whom I shared my concern I have been given many rationalizations that to me signaled attempts to “convert” me, or offer an idea of a “higher power” that completely conflicts with my way of thinking.  In the chapter of the Blue Book (AA), We Agnostics, that they refer to in every meeting is proselytizing. There are many quotes I could pull out from the 12 steps and the Book that quite clearly make AA a pseudo-religious/or just religious/spiritual movement.  But, I would seriously suggest that skeptics read the chapter, We Agnostics - http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/en_BigBook_chapt4.pdf

Over the years I have considered the arguments of those that say bringing such law suits is a distraction, such as Michael Newdow’s, whereas I think they are needed and over do.

Let me add, if this does get to the Supreme Court, I would want/expect organizations such as CFI to offer support to this Buddhist! There are viable alternatives to AA, such as SOS (that was introduced in Free Inquiry 21 years ago!), that need greater support.

The twelve steps - http://www.aa-louisiana.org/steps.htm - read at the beginning of every meeting.

3.) Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

5.) Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

6.) Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

7.) Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings

11.) Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

12.) Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

[ Edited: 29 November 2007 08:31 AM by zarcus ]